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Old 09-07-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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People gripe about high taxes, but then are shocked when teachers and services are reduced/fired.

People complain about the jackbooted thugs of the government but then when there is a terrorist attack, wonder why the government didn't do more to protect them.

Nothing is perfect but I think people don't step back and look at things objectively enough before they start lambasting the government. Thoughts?
Definitely. I think our whole system is pretty decent seeing how we built it ourselves. It's kind of like watching ants on an ant farm build their home lol.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:11 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Definitely. I think our whole system is pretty decent seeing how we built it ourselves. It's kind of like watching ants on an ant farm build their home lol.
You support the PATRIOT Act I guess?
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:15 AM
 
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You support the PATRIOT Act I guess?
Uh...No. My statement was pretty vague, so what would make you think I support that from my statement? How random.....
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:18 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Uh...No. My statement was pretty vague, so what would make you think I support that from my statement? How random.....

The PATRIOT Act is part of the system....
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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Default no need to cut these

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[b]People gripe about high taxes, but then are shocked when teachers and services are reduced/fired.
just cut the bloated bureaucratic systems that administer these services.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:49 AM
 
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The PATRIOT Act is part of the system....
And? Should we just go thought every single piece of legislation so I can tell you what I support and don't support?

I did not say we didn't need improvement. My point was that, when looking at the bigger picture, humans have done a decent job (in some places).
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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Government may be inept but business is frequently inimical. Government may be late but business will take every dime you have.
This thread is about government, not business. Please stay on topic.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:03 AM
 
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People gripe about high taxes, but then are shocked when teachers and services are reduced/fired.

People complain about the jackbooted thugs of the government but then when there is a terrorist attack, wonder why the government didn't do more to protect them.


Nothing is perfect but I think people don't step back and look at things objectively enough before they start lambasting the government. Thoughts?
The scope of the federal government has been a matter of debate in this country since the Articles of Confederation. The Constitution was designed to address the deficiencies of the Articles. By the same token the Founding Fathers wanted to ensure that the federal government would not assume tyrannical powers, a la George III. So a system of checks and balances was put in place to ensure that the federal government, while powerful enough to accomplish the duties assigned to it under the Constitution, would not be so powerful as to overwhelm the individual or the states. Unfortunately the federal government's gradual accretion of power has done precisely what the framers feared. The answer is not anarchy (no one, conservative or libertarian advocates anarchy) but a return to constitutional government. A good place to start is by re-invigorating the 10th Amendment. And, no, the 10th amendment is not equivalent to the James Calhoun argument for states' rights.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:04 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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And? Should we just go thought every single piece of legislation so I can tell you what I support and don't support?

I did not say we didn't need improvement. My point was that, when looking at the bigger picture, humans have done a decent job (in some places).
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People complain about the jackbooted thugs of the government but then when there is a terrorist attack, wonder why the government didn't do more to protect them.
But disagree with the PATRIOT Act....
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:05 AM
 
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People gripe about high taxes, but then are shocked when teachers and services are reduced/fired.

People complain about the jackbooted thugs of the government but then when there is a terrorist attack, wonder why the government didn't do more to protect them.

Nothing is perfect but I think people don't step back and look at things objectively enough before they start lambasting the government. Thoughts?
The sign that said "Take your government hands off my medicare!!!" says it all.
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