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Old 09-08-2011, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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A More Progressive Tax System Makes People Happier - Association for Psychological Science

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But a new study comparing 54 nations found that flattening the tax risks flattening social wellbeing as well. “The more progressive the tax policy is, the happier the citizens are,” says University of Virginia psychologist Shigehiro Oishi, summarizing the findings, which will be published in an upcoming issue of Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science.
Darn those Liberals trying to increase public goods like good public transportation, education system, and health care. We need to pull away from being like Canada, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Finland and Sweden that have high life satisfaction scores.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:57 PM
 
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So if a bunch of people go to dinner and they leave the tab with one person at the table every day those that pay nothing are happy. (Tyranny of the majority)
Then that one person goes belly up and the next most wealthy person has to pay that tab, then they go belly up.
Kept happening till everyone starves to death.

We already see the failure of such a system throughout the world, most recently in Europe and it doesn't work.
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:00 PM
 
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Happy for who;LOL
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Happy for who;LOL
The left leaners that go along with Obama feel that everybody paying their Fair Share is what must be. Of course, they never tell us what that fair share is but do talk about it a lot.
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:10 PM
 
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The left leaners that go along with Obama feel that everybody paying their Fair Share is what must be. Of course, they never tell us what that fair share is but do talk about it a lot.
A flat tax would be a fair tax and would always have the poor pay least and the rich paying the most.

Lets say it is 10%.

A family making 30k only owes 3k.
A family making 80k only owes 8k.
A family making 500k would owe 50k.
If you make 100,000,000 you owe 10,000,000.

There are very few people who reach a rich level, so trying to balance a budget on mostly them when in an Obama economy half no longer exist, is just insane.
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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Darn those Liberals trying to increase public goods like good public transportation, education system, and health care. We need to pull away from being like Canada, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Finland and Sweden that have high life satisfaction scores.
What do you know about public transportation in New Zealand and how happy they're about it down there?
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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A flat tax would be a fair tax and would always have the poor pay least and the rich paying the most.

Lets say it is 10%.

A family making 30k only owes 3k.
A family making 80k only owes 8k.
A family making 500k would owe 50k.
If you make 100,000,000 you owe 10,000,000.

There are very few people who reach a rich level, so trying to balance a budget on mostly them when in an Obama economy half no longer exist, is just insane.
Can anyone point out the obvious reason this flat tax is not fair at all?
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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A flat tax would be a fair tax and would always have the poor pay least and the rich paying the most.

Lets say it is 10%.

A family making 30k only owes 3k.
A family making 80k only owes 8k.
A family making 500k would owe 50k.
If you make 100,000,000 you owe 10,000,000.

There are very few people who reach a rich level, so trying to balance a budget on mostly them when in an Obama economy half no longer exist, is just insane.
and a family living on 10,000 a year has to pay 1,000.....i hope not. If they were to start at a certain point say, 18,000 a year, that could work better. as it is, the govt needs to start their calculations for taxes and benefit eligibility based on what a person needs to survive, then build on that. not many people can live decently on less than 1500 a month gross, as a basic amount. or some figure like that, but of course it varies depending on where you live and the varied costs of living in different states and cities.
no one should be put into a worse state of hardship. I think that's the problem a lot of people have with this kind of flat tax- because a person who makes 1,000,000 a year and pays 100,000 taxes at a 10% rate, will obviously not be doing without any basics of living, but a low income person who has to give up 10% definitely has to sacrifice on necessities. so in essence that is not fair. it may be mathematically uniform, but "fair" is a human condition sort of descriptor, and so fair has to take into account the effect on humans. "social justice" and "economic justice" are about how things effect / impact people, not hard cold math calculations.

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Old 09-08-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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Can anyone point out the obvious reason this flat tax is not fair at all?
Because EVERYONE has flesh in the game?

If EVERYONE had an interest in paying taxes, then everyone would vote in ways to keep government smallest and functional so the 10% can be later 7%.

I believe in social programs for helping the disabled and the elderly and maybe some months of help for others, but we can't have part of the country paying and the rest voting for others to pay their bill.

A balanced budget amendment with exceptions for war and emergencies would go a long way there to well.

We need to have as few government employees as possible, less restrictive regulation for political reasons and get on with it.
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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Instead of being alarmed with how big our federal government has become, let's debate new schemes to enable it with more revenue.
yeah really good thinkin.
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