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Old 09-11-2011, 05:39 AM
 
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Which one, Jenna or Barbara? Smart, independent young women. I'd be proud of them, if they were my daughters.

The Bush Twins on Their Own - Barbara Bush, Jenna Bush : People.com
LOL! Those Bushbabies! Ha! They'll be indendent when they give up their UNEARNED inherited wealth, change thier names and move to a country where the Bush hierarchy can't find them....and ONLY then will these two drunken party girls be independent!
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Old 09-11-2011, 05:43 AM
 
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Tell you what, lady. Start a thread on Nancy Pelosi's moral and intellectual superior, and we can talk about him.

I will remind you, however, that THIS thread is about Bill Clinton's putative spouse, who is a poster girl for mediocrity. And a well-known frump. Your unwillingess to deal with those facts says volumes about your political knowledgeability. I have no comment at this point about your fashion sense. I just hope you're more Gloria Steinem than Bella Abzug; more Helen Hunt than Betty Friedan; more Suzanne Pleshette than Helen Thomas.

And with those observations, I bid you oyasumi from the land of the rising sun.
Yup! Some people just can't recognize their sexism, and I suppose some don't care, it makes them feel safe(and falsely superior)......diminishing 50% of the population is so "intelligent"...LOL!

I bid good-bye...to the land of subservient women....
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Old 09-11-2011, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I didn't read the whole thread so maybe this has already been said but...it almost look like she goes out of her way to look as un-feminine and un-attractive as possible.
Maybe in an effort to be taken more seriously?
BTW...I don't think that is necessary for a woman to do.
In her case, she could certainly find a happy medium as I think she draws just as much attention to her appearance this way as she would if she went to the other extreme.
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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I didn't read that the issue was her lack of grooming or whatever the female equivalent of 3 day stubble is, but that she isn't wearing enough lip gloss and skirts.

I agree that part of the job is looking presentable. I haven't heard arguments that she looks unpresentable (nor have I seen evidence of this), more that she doesn't look "pretty" enough to some of her critics. To the latter argument, I say people need to get a life!
IMO the "equivalent of a 3 day stubble" on a woman is not taking the time to put on a little makeup.

Intense, high stress jobs such as the presidency--or perhaps Secretary of State--is wearing on anyone. Even after 2 1/2 years, Obama has more gray hair and looks noticeably older than he did when he took office. Not enough sleep and trying to balance a 24/7 schedule is bound to be difficult. Plus Hillary travels around the world even more than Obama does. In leadership positions, presentation of a "good image" is important and, because Hillary must deal with misogynistic cultures, it is even more incumbent on her to be on top of the game.

From the few pictures I have seen, I don't think she looks "unpresentable". She looks more tired than anything else.
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Old 09-11-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Or perhaps without Hillary, Bill may never have been POTUS?
Hillary is NOT a Mary Todd Lincoln who pushed her husband to be more than he wanted. She is a hanger-on who admitted IN COLLEGE that Bill wa "going places" and so she pursed him. Too bad HE was pursueing anything with a skirt..... and apparently so was SHE.
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Old 09-11-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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I am an admirer of Ms Clinton, voted for her in the Dem primary. But I've noticed that she always appears very drab, very tired looking. How come she doesn't make an attempt to make herself more attractive like most others in politics? She was once very attractive when she was First Lady, but appears to just have "let herself go".
Sec of State is a more stressful job, with a lot more travelling.

In Hilary Clinton's case if she doesn't care and is doing her job I see no problem.
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Old 09-11-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Thousands of years of men helping men to advance, The Good Old Boy System, but when a woman is perceived to do it it's the neanderthal WHINE of """"a lying ***** who rode the coattails of a philandering prick to power. Hag sounds about right"""""

Guess Baby Bush had no help from Daddykins, right???

Ah, so my respect for one woman is discounted by you because of my contempt for another.

Seems to me that is true respect and equality - judging members of any group as individuals based upon their own individual merits or lack thereof.

LOL!!!
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Old 09-11-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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And Repugs think looks and lipgloss are what women are all about....worked well for Palin and Bachmann...they're goners!!!!


And neither one ever made it to one of the most important and powerful jobs ...Secretary of State....
Attacking Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin for their appearance is just as bad as attacking Hilary Clinton for hers imo.
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Old 09-11-2011, 06:34 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I am an admirer of Ms Clinton, voted for her in the Dem primary. But I've noticed that she always appears very drab, very tired looking. How come she doesn't make an attempt to make herself more attractive like most others in politics? She was once very attractive when she was First Lady, but appears to just have "let herself go".
Since Bill is getting his pole greased elsewhere, she feels no need to make herself look more attractive for her man.
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Old 09-11-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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Since Bill is getting his pole greased elsewhere, she feels no need to make herself look more attractive for her man.
This. Lol
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