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Old 09-13-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So the President of the US flew out to one lone aircraft carrier to declare that it's mission was accomplished?

BEST LAUGH OF THE DAY !!
Presidents have done this all the time; going to a military unit, and congratulating them on a job well done, as a way of thanking all the other units involved. 0bama has done the same thing.

Take your obvious, and over flowing hate, and stow it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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Try again.
Nah, you've already been pwnd.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:01 AM
 
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Nah, you've already been pwnd.
If Fox had ever been in the military, and been deployed for months overseas and returned home, especially after deploying to a war, he would know that these types of banners and celebrations occur.

These lavish homecoming celebrations are mostly run by the wives of the officers and enlisted personnel, who want to greet their loved ones after a long absence. To actually have the CinC come to welcome the returning troops is especially eventful, and would have encouraged an even more robust homecoming celebration.

Many of these people simply hate and despise the military, which is why they are so hell bent on making an issue of it. The mere thought of a return home celebration, for these baby killing, right-wing war mongers, prob boils their blood in the first place, much less Booooosh being involved in them.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I suspect they were unethical and a disgrace to America, like many other Bush/Cheney approaches. So, yes.

We will never be without risk, and how we carry ourselves with that knowledge is key. We are Americans, not Nazi's for goodness sake.

Obama presided over the capture and killing of Bin Laden. Bush did not. Deal with it.

Yes, but now you want it both ways as fits the circumstance.

The initial intelligence locating UBL was obtained at the secret CIA prison in Poland and most likely by using enhanced interrogation techniques.

You can't take credit for what you oppose.

Deal with it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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Exactly. Bush said what he said, and he meant it. There's no disputing this. He said it. Its UNDENIABLE. Move on, Republicans. The guy is on VIDEO saying these things and you still try this.

It's the same thing with Osama getting taken out. Obama came out and talked about the mission success, at around 11 P.M, and what...14 hours later, Rush Limbaugh is talking about how Obama claimed ALL credit it and it was no one else success, even though he said "We" 95% of the speech, and I the other 5%. The address is DOCUMENTED on TV, it had happened barely even half a day earlier, and Limbaugh's dumbass STILL said that. I just don't get it. Once again, there's no debate, there's no arguing. It indisputable. So Limbaugh is either stupid, or he thinks his audience is stupid and believes they will buy into his bull**** even though he's documented as being totally wrong...



BUSH: We are, Richard. Thank you. Thanks for asking the question. They were asking me about somebody's report, well, Special Forces here — Pakistan — if he is in Pakistan, as this person thought he might be, who is asking the question — Pakistan is a sovereign nation. In order for us to send thousands of troops into a sovereign nation, we've got to be invited by the government of Pakistan.

McCain: "Larry, I'm not going to go there and here's why: because Pakistan is a sovereign nation."

Apparently not. Limbaugh, Hannity, etc all claimed Obama was wrong as well. Of course if it failed it would have been all him, and they'd point to how they were right and Obama was wrong, and would create the millionth Conservative false narrative that Obama was incredibly hands on and had EVERYTHING to do with the plan. Same way we had to hear "ZOMG OBAMA LIBYAWAR GET OUT IS FAILURE!!1!", until Gaddafi fell, at which point it was NATOs operation and Obama had nothing to do with anything.

But since it was a success, this never comes up. Once again: documented, and they still try this kind of thing...







"My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him," he said. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

Barack Obama: it is no longer essential to kill Osama bin Laden - Times Online
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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He did what probably 95% of past presidents would have done and probably 85% of the american people would have done. I don't know how that falls into being gutty or risky.
He gave the go ahead on a mission that was somewhat botched by political pressures. The Seals and the intelligence people did all the heavy lifting and planning. We could and should have caught him alive and at the very least made a real effort to do so. The military aspect went nearly perfectly, they deserve the praise not the guy who signed the authorization once it was planned out.
The bar on Obama has been lowered so much that he now gets praised for doing anything that isn't negative no matter how mundane or ordinary it is.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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He did what probably 95% of past presidents would have done and probably 85% of the american people would have done. I don't know how that falls into being gutty or risky.
He gave the go ahead on a mission that was somewhat botched by political pressures. The Seals and the intelligence people did all the heavy lifting and planning. We could and should have caught him alive and at the very least made a real effort to do so. The military aspect went nearly perfectly, they deserve the praise not the guy who signed the authorization once it was planned out.
The bar on Obama has been lowered so much that he now gets praised for doing anything that isn't negative no matter how mundane or ordinary it is.
Ohooooo...like a "participation ribbon" for all the kids.

Yep, now I get it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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All of the military and intelligence people have praised his decision to make the call. One general said it was a "very gutsy" call on the President's part. That makes me proud today. I think many others, including GWB and McCain, would have been afraid of the political fallout.
GWB started the whole thing, so, he would have gone and got him. Obama is nothing special, he just needed a boost in ratings, is all.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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GWB started the whole thing, so, he would have gone and got him. Obama is nothing special, he just needed a boost in ratings, is all.
However, it did happen....so that is good.
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Old 09-13-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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So wouldn't it have been better to capture Bin Laden and intorrogate him?
0bama and Holder have so screwed things up, that if we had captured OBL, we would not have been able to interrogate him at all, because once we granted him US Constitutional rights, he could refuse to talk, and even denied us all that intel from his house. so we had to kill him, and be satisfied with whatever intel his computers and paper documents had to offer.

We have made things so screwy, that even if we captured OBL alive, the man with a wealth of knowledge in his head, we would not have been able to get any information from him at all. Crazy isn't it?

Biden: "Barack!!! We captured OBL alive!!

0bama: Wowzers! So what intel has he given us?

Biden: None. We asked him nicely to tell us what he knows about future attacks and plans, four times, and he is claiming his right to remain silent. We even offered cookies and milk.

0bama: So try asking him five times.

Biden: We can't, the UN says asking the same question five times is a form of torture, and we don't torture.

0bama: What about all the computers and paper documents we found at his house?

Biden: He says we lacked a proper search warrant.

0bama: Drat. That OBL sure is a crafty one.
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