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Old 09-13-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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No thanks. It wouldn't make any difference. You and i already have our definitions set in stone.

You know what i mean, so there is no need for a long drawn out explanation. Obama has governed as a center-right president. Bottom line, end of story. Take it to the bank. Not saying that you have to believe it, but i damn sure do.
I actually do not know what you mean. As we are all debating based on certain base assumptions, let's get those assumptions out in the open. Do you want to have an adult conversation, or do you want to whine about republicans? I want to former.

If you want the latter, there is probably a freshman political science 101 course you could audit at a local liberal arts college, or better yet, if all you want to do is to complain about republicans, go watch the Daily Show. That way at least those of us who want to have reasoned, intelligent conversations don't have to hear you.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:11 PM
 
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You know what i mean, so there is no need for a long drawn out explanation. Obama has governed as a center-right president. Bottom line, end of story. Take it to the bank. Not saying that you have to believe it, but i damn sure do.
So I guess in your mind Obamacare is a center-right piece of legislature?
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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I actually do not know what you mean. As we are all debating based on certain base assumptions, let's get those assumptions out in the open. Do you want to have an adult conversation, or do you want to whine about republicans? I want to former.

If you want the latter, there is probably a freshman political science 101 course you could audit at a local liberal arts college, or better yet, if all you want to do is to complain about republicans, go watch the Daily Show. That way at least those of us who want to have reasoned, intelligent conversations don't have to hear you.
Complain about Republicans? Dude...i aint thinking about yall. Seriously, chill with the self flattery. Once i log off of this computer, THE END.

Again (for the last time), the man is governing as a slightly right of center president. If he isn't, prove it. If he's such a commie like the right claims he is, show me. I sure as hell don't see it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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So I guess in your mind Obamacare is a center-right piece of legislature?
No, but it has no public option either. Neither can you call it anything resembling national health care or Single Payer health care....which is what i liberal like me actually wants.

Seems to me that if he can't please libs nor please conservatives, he probably did the right thing....even though i don't like it at the end of the day.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I gave you examples.
You mean the snippets you posted without regard to context?
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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No, but it has no public option either.
It is not something a conservative president would sign into law.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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Complain about Republicans? Dude...i aint thinking about yall. Seriously, chill with the self flattery. Once i log off of this computer, THE END.

Again (for the last time), the man is governing as a slightly right of center president. If he isn't, prove it. If he's such a commie like the right claims he is, show me. I sure as hell don't see it.
PM me when you want to talk like an adult.

Until then, I think it is time for you to go back to 8th period gym class.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:17 PM
 
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Obama has governed as a center-right president.
Isn't it rather curious that Obama the center-rightist could not get behind the bipartisan, centrist tax reform ideas of his own Simpson Bowles Commission or the Gang of Six outline for solving the debt/deficit debate? And that his own concept of changing the tax code is diametrically opposite of these centrist approaches?

Follow the money. He's no centrist.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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So I guess in your mind Obamacare is a center-right piece of legislature?
Yes, absolutely. Not enacting any healthcare reform is far-right. Single-payer healthcare is center-left. Obama's plan is a center-right compromise.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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Yes, absolutely. Not enacting any healthcare reform is far-right. Single-payer healthcare is center-left. Obama's plan is a center-right compromise.
This is easily one of the most insane statements I have ever heard.

Single payer healthcare is extreme left.
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