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Old 11-23-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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I don't know in what world you live in but, in mine not EVEY store has computer cash registers.
I live in a big city for half the year and a small town the other half. All the stores in both places have electronic cash registers. Registers that automatically calculate change have been around for decades. What world to YOU live in?
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Judicial Watch.

'nuff said.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:31 PM
 
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Democrats need stupid followers.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I expect this kind of nonsense from you. Apparently left handers have no problem with teachers who can't speak english teaching their children. Go figure. All that multiculturalism they are told to follow of course they can't raise a wimper.
HEY, careful there! I am LEFT HANDED, and I had good teachers, and I can read very well.
But then, I started school in the late 1940s, and consistently read at least 2 levels above grade all the way through school.
By the way, that should be "whimper" not "wimper".

It is also quite obvious that proofreading is a lost art.
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Old 11-23-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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"Protected by the power of their union, no teachers have been fired for fluency issues. They have simply been reassigned and districts are required to develop “corrective-action plans” to improve their English. "

DOJ Protects Teachers With Unacceptable English Skills | Judicial Watch (http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...english-skills - broken link)
I don't suppose they could be reassigned as janitors. I imagine that would bring them up to speed on proper English pretty quickly.
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Old 11-23-2013, 07:39 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Anybody wonder why kids can't read in public schools?

A casual tour of the POC forum reveals that it isn't just today's kids with the problem.
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Old 11-24-2013, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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I can relate. One thing about engineering school...they don't give you passing grades just so yo feel good about yourself. Our entire ME class took the same exams for Thermodynamics. The class that had the english as a first language professor finished better than 20 points above the other two.
So what? I had all kinds of profs too. Some had really thick accents and were good teachers, some had really thick accents and were lousy teachers. Some had no accents at all. Professors aren't trained teachers, and aren't necessarily good at it or particularly thrilled to have to be doing it. When there's as big a gap as that between the grades of different classes, it usually says more about the prof's teaching skills than speaking skills.

Still, I can sympathize. The worst was Dr. Xun's attempt to teach advanced digital design and Dr. Pierre's Crystals and Materials With Unintelligible French Accent class. But I had great profs with thick Austrian, Russian, Egyptian and American accents ("This here is yer Fahv-Fahv-Favh Tahmer") too.
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:00 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Democrats need stupid followers.
Need? The continued existence of their party depends on it.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/thene...ction-20121109

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Old 11-24-2013, 06:45 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Public schools are not the problem, after all, other countries basically have hardly any private schools and still achieve very good results.
The problem in the US seems to be the way the public school system is run, any maybe even the existence of and competition with private schools, basically the elitist, class-oriented approach of many parents.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:06 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Public schools are not the problem, after all, other countries basically have hardly any private schools and still achieve very good results.
The problem in the US seems to be the way the public school system is run
Exactly!

MUCH more on that, here:
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"While students in the bottom quartile have shown slow but steady improvement since the 1960s, average test scores have nonetheless gone down, primarily because of the performance of those in the top quartile. This "highest cohort of achievers," Rudman writes, has shown "the greatest declines across a variety of subjects as well as across age-level groups." Analysts have also found "a substantial drop among those children in the middle range of achievement," he continues, "but less loss and some modest gains at the lower levels." In other words, our brightest youngsters, those most likely to be headed for selective colleges, have suffered the most dramatic setbacks over the past two decades--a fact with grave implications for our ability to compete with other nations in the future. If this is true--and abundant evidence exists to suggest that it is--then we indeed have a second major crisis in our education system.
The Other Crisis in American Education - The Atlantic

The college professor author and the studies he cites have tracked the problem down to U.S. schools' curricula backing away from academically challenging material and embracing more inclusive feel-good politically correct curricula, and the fact that classes are much less frequently grouped by skill/ability level which by necessity of getting the entire class to make academic progress, dumbs down the top and the middle.
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