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Old 09-17-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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Your post was answered previously by my post. I will repeat it for you.

IAW Government figures,

Total private employment in 2000 was 110,995,000, and in 2008 was 114,566,000, leading to an increase of 3,571,000. Total government employment, over the same period, changed from 20,790,000 to 22,500,000, for a net increase of 1,710,000.

Unfortunate for us brother Bush doesn't understand LESS government, however private employment figures were up over 3.5 million jobs.

Going by the same Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers for Obama's Presidency, he has lost over 2.4 million jobs in 3 years. Also Obama has increased our nation's debt in less than 1 entire term of presidency, more than any other president has done in 8 years. Those are some really sad numbers, and they are accurate.

So I am unsure what kind of NEW MATH you are using but BUSH had Job Growth, Obama has had none, and the GOP hasn't impeded anything. Obama with his Democratic congress majority the first 2 years of his presidency, passed every single bill that he wanted, and in fact the ONLY thing he hasn't gotten during his presidency was the last budget bill to his satisfaction. Everything else Obama wanted, he got. So don't say the GOP has hindered anything, Obama got everything he wanted and still LOST over 2.4 million jobs.

Obama hasn't negotiated with anyone, with the sole exception of the budget bill. Every thing else he wanted, he got, and it still hasn't worked.
Just to prove the point of how obstucionist the GOP is, for starters...

24 Policies That Republicans Supported BEFORE They Were Against Them
24 Policies That Republicans Supported BEFORE They Were Against Them | Addicting Info (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/22/24-policies-that-republicans-supported-before-they-were-against-them/ - broken link)

Obama created more jobs in one year than Bush created in eight
Obama Created More Jobs In One Year Than Bush Created In Eight | ThinkProgress


The GOP has offered no job plan to date, nor will they ever. Why shouold they? It will only benefit them not to. They announced their goal when they took control of Congress and it was not to help the average American..it was to get rid of Obama. What a bunch of turds and what a bunch of convenient idiots that still support them.

The Big Lie
Nov 1, 2010 9:05 AM EDT The expected Republican victory on Tuesday will be built on an untruth: that President Obama’s stimulus didn’t work. Sir Harold Evans sets the record straight.

The Stimulus Worked: The GOP
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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Just to prove the point of how obstucionist the GOP is, for starters...

24 Policies That Republicans Supported BEFORE They Were Against Them
24 Policies That Republicans Supported BEFORE They Were Against Them | Addicting Info (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/22/24-policies-that-republicans-supported-before-they-were-against-them/ - broken link)

Obama created more jobs in one year than Bush created in eight
Obama Created More Jobs In One Year Than Bush Created In Eight | ThinkProgress


The GOP has offered no job plan to date, nor will they ever. Why shouold they? It will only benefit them not to. They announced their goal when they took control of Congress and it was not to help the average American..it was to get rid of Obama. What a bunch of turds and what a bunch of convenient idiots that still support them.

The Big Lie
Nov 1, 2010 9:05 AM EDT The expected Republican victory on Tuesday will be built on an untruth: that President Obama’s stimulus didn’t work. Sir Harold Evans sets the record straight.

The Stimulus Worked: The GOP
And i repeat for YOU - Do you really want a list of policies the dumbo's changed THEIR minds on?

Lets start with Obama, (The Prince of Bill Ayers),

Obama in 2006 said
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The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
I can easily go through and get you another 24 if you would like.
Don't you understand, these politicians flip flip like a fish out of water whenever it's convenient for them? it doesn't matter which side the repugs or the dumbos.

Total private employment in 2000 was 110,995,000, and in 2008 was 114,566,000, leading to an increase of 3,571,000. Total government employment, over the same period, changed from 20,790,000 to 22,500,000, for a net increase of 1,710,000.

Going by the same Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers for Obama's Presidency, he has lost over 2.4 million jobs in 3 years. Also Obama has increased our nation's debt in less than 1 entire term of presidency, more than any other president has done in 8 years. Those are some really sad numbers, and they are accurate.

So you can Use Think Progress and Nancy Pelosi's comments, or you can use the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

You need to quit using that Democrat math and start using REAL math. While bush was President we gained jobs, whole Obama has been president, we lost jobs. No number of fake quotes or statistics from think progress or nancy pelosi will change the raw facts.
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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Just to prove the point of how obstucionist the GOP is, for starters...

24 Policies That Republicans Supported BEFORE They Were Against Them
24 Policies That Republicans Supported BEFORE They Were Against Them | Addicting Info (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/22/24-policies-that-republicans-supported-before-they-were-against-them/ - broken link)

Obama created more jobs in one year than Bush created in eight
Obama Created More Jobs In One Year Than Bush Created In Eight | ThinkProgress


The GOP has offered no job plan to date, nor will they ever. Why shouold they? It will only benefit them not to. They announced their goal when they took control of Congress and it was not to help the average American..it was to get rid of Obama. What a bunch of turds and what a bunch of convenient idiots that still support them.

The Big Lie
Nov 1, 2010 9:05 AM EDT The expected Republican victory on Tuesday will be built on an untruth: that President Obama’s stimulus didn’t work. Sir Harold Evans sets the record straight.

The Stimulus Worked: The GOP
We have missed you over at the thread about the Obama Admin imploding.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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It is clearly indefensible and I trust the American people will see that they were thrown to the lions when it mattered the most. The Republicans (conservatives, actually) are only interested in winning. The cost to the nation is irrelevant.

I found it profoundly telling that during the President's jobs speech to Congress, Obama said that the government's impasse on jobs should not cause the unemployed 14 more months of suffering (14 months until the election). In response, all the Democrats applauded. Boehner, in his seat behind the President, remained seated, hands closed, lips pursed, doing nothing. Is that goal, that intention of the President NOT something everyone in the room should have cheered?

If a politician plays politics, and if they do it as blatantly as the Republicans are doing right now, they should be recalled, or worse. They are there to do a job. Playing politics may seem like part of the our political system, but we Americans should not tolerate another second of it. Why do we? Why aren't we up in arms signing petitions and scaring the crap out of them?

Or do we deserve this government?
"The Republicans (conservatives, actually) are only interested in winning. The cost to the nation is irrelevant."

You surly aren't naive enough to believe the dems aren't the EXACT same way?
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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Is it supposed to be news that the Koch Owned Party has betrayed the American People? No news there
I see you missed the memo. It is now the Solyndra owned party.

Oops sorry, I was thinking of the dem party.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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No one from the GOP has to say it, their lack of action says enough.
Lack of action? A list of bills passed in the house currently sitting in the senate on the shelf thanks to Dirty Harry Reid was posted earlier. I started a thread about it last week too and not one of you swooners even took a look. Lack of action my butt. The republicans havn't even begun firing bullets at Obama yet in campaign ads. They are just letting him dig his hole deeper. Must be one of the shovel ready jobs he actually created.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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And if the Hope n' Change fiasco was not a lie by our current President, what is for gosh sakes. This is anything but Hope, and people are looking for change. They cannot find any.

He sure in the hell has not helped our current situation with jobs has he. I am positive anyone else who comes in could do a better job.
I feel Obama has betrayed all of our trust. People who believed in him, and praised him, are some of the people who have lost jobs, their homes, or both. Believe me i feel any Republician who would come in can and will do a better job.

I have heard Romeny and Perry and Newt talk about jobs and even Bachmann.
Stop making excuses for this current President for gosh sakes, and hopefully the next hopeful with have business experience, cause this Presdient has none.

Infact isn't next weeks Debate suppose to touch on jobs, i heard it was.
"I have heard Romeny and Perry and Newt talk about jobs and even Bachmann".

They DO talk about jobs just not in the way the dems do.

They do NOT believe it is the gov't's job to "create" jobs but, the gov't can stymie job creation..

They believe jobs are a product of a flourishing free market. Set the market free and the jobs WILL be there, as has happened before in our history.

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Old 09-17-2011, 04:18 PM
 
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I guess some of these folks pipe dream is the government hires everybody. Then get 30% in taxes taken from their checks and next payday they only get 70% of what they got the previous week and eventually the government has all the money and everybody gets to line up for free bread and cheese. Hope that they are nice enough to throw in some Popov.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:18 PM
 
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The G.O.P. has publicly admitted (Boehner and McConnell) that their only interest in this Congress is making sure Obama is a one term president.......that is their only REAL concern/goal.
Based on Obama's past performances, I agree.

How many bills has the House passed and are sitting dead in the Senate because Reid refuses to submit them to any committee?

If THEY aren't going to do anything with them, get rid of the obstructionists.

After Reid loses control of the senate and Obama is voted out then the repubs can get to work trying to fix the mess Obama and the dems have caused.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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If you continue to believe the lip service provided by the Obama administration, then we are in trouble.

Eric Cantor shows just some of the bills submitted and passed by the House of Representatives and in the following you'll see a remarkable number of .. Senate has taken no action to date!

Go back to your basements and try harder lefties!



Below is a list of measures House Republicans have passed related to job creation:

Empower small business owners and reduce regulatory burdens:

H.R. 872, the Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act

• Introduced by Rep. Bob Gibbs (OH) on March 2, 2011

• Passed the House by a vote of 292-130 on March 31, 2011

• Senate has taken no action to date

H.R. 910, the Energy Tax Prevention Act

• Introduced by Rep. Fred Upton (MI) on March 3, 2011

• Passed the House by a vote of 255-172 on April 7, 2011

• Senate has taken no action to date

H.R. 37, a Resolution of disapproval regarding the FCC's regulation of the Internet and broadband industry practices

• Introduced by Rep. Greg Walden (OR) on February 16, 2011

• Passed the House by a vote of 240 to 179 on April 8, 2011

• Senate has taken no action to date

H.R. 72, a Resolution to direct committees to inventory and review existing, pending, and proposed regulations and order from agencies of the federal government, particularly with respect to their effect on jobs and economic growth

• Introduced by Rep. Pete Sessions (TX) on February 8, 2011

• Passed the House by a vote of 391 to 28 on February 11, 2011

• The Senate has not directed their committees to take such action

Fix the tax code to help job creators:

H.R. 4, the Small Business Paperwork Mandate Elimination Act

• Introduced by Rep. Dan Lungren (CA) on January 12, 2011

• Passed the House by a vote of 314 to 112 on March 3, 2011

• Passed the Senate by a vote of 87 to 12 on March 31, 2011

• Signed into law by the President on April 14, 2011

Maximize domestic energy production to ensure an energy policy for the twenty-first century:

H.R. 1230, Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act

• Introduced by Rep. Doc Hastings (WA) on March 29, 2011

• Passed the House by a vote of 266-149 on May 5, 2011

• Senate has taken no action to date

H.R. 1229, Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act

• Introduced by Rep. Doc Hastings (WA) on March 29, 2011

• Passed the House by a vote of 263-163 on May 11, 2011

• Senate has taken no action to date

H.R. 1231, Reversing President Obama's Offshore Moratorium Act

• Introduced by Rep. Doc Hastings (WA) on March 29, 2011

• Passed the House by a vote of 243-179 on May 12, 2011

• Senate has taken no action to date

Pay down America's unsustainable debt burden and start living within our means:

H.Con.Res. 34, a Resolution establishing the budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2012 and setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2013 through 2021

• Introduced by Rep. Paul Ryan (WI) on April 11, 2011

• Passed the House by a vote of 235-193 on April 15, 2011

• Senate has not yet considered a budget of their own
Great post.

With your permission, I will re-post this every time the left rants about the repubs not doing anything.
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