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So, only your opinion reflects how life really is?
There's obviously no point in continuing this conversation.
Of course you brought it up. Since you are going to out and out lie, there is not point in continuing this conversation.
Since your beliefs are not up for debate, there is no point in continuing this conversation.
Wow.
No, my opinion is not the only right one. But what I said is a fact. Both women and men were put here to make more people. That was the original intention of creating human life. Now, with having babies out of wedlock and gay people, that intent has gone to ****.
I did not "bring up" God. You did by trying to make an issue out of my wording. There is absolutely no reason to continue discussing it b/c it's a non issue when it comes to this discussion. I would appreciate not being called a liar as well, go back and reread the discussion, I did not "bring up" any kind of religious debate, no matter if you want to turn it into one or not.
I'm tolerant when tolerance is warranted. Ignorant, anti-gay conservatives don't deserve tolerance, they deserve to be called out for their stupidity.
Isn't that kind of saying that you're really NOT tolerant? Just b/c someone doesn't think gays should be able to marry does not mean they're ignorant or anti-gay. Or conservative, for that matter. Or stupid, since you want to throw that in there.
So basically, when presented with two different benefits of marriage that cannot be drawn up with a lawyer (by your request), your response is "well I don't think gays should have those benefits anyways".
What it boils down to is that you know your argument ("But they can get all those benefits with contracts and legal documents") is a downright lie.
Whelp. This right here explains it.
You just don't care about fellow human beings.
Thanks for letting us in on this tidbit.
Sure I care about people. But I'm sorry if it bothers you that I don't feel sorry for people that are in immoral relationships not being able to act like married couples.
I also don't care if the immature punk on Sister Wives gets to play tomcat and roam from house to house either.
Based on this understanding of federal/state law, we could see a state creating some wacked out law that would then be forced upon every other state....like 2 men getting married. What if Utah decided to allow polygamy?
Based on that, I would fully support a Constitutional Amendment to spell that out. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.
You mean wacked out like blacks marrying whites? 96% of the country opposed it. I agree it was a horrible thing to let happen. We should have a Constitutional ban on interracial marriage. It's what God would want, since he forbid the mixing of the races.
For about the 147th time......race <> sexual preference.
Legally they are the same thing. Both are innate qualities that result in discrimination. And 96% of the country opposed interracial marriage. What about their rights?
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Having said that, there is no reason a gay man can't get married. They have exactly the same marriage rights I do.
You may be fine with a loveless marriage, but not everyone wants to marry someone they have nothing in common with, including attraction.
And what makes them different? They're both aspects of a person, are they not?
What makes discrimination against race "bad" and discrimination against sexual preference "good"?
Usually this is where the "it's a choice" fallacious argument comes into play. Gays choose to be perverted abominations. Blacks don't choose their skin color.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that "heterosexuals [are] forcing an agenda" since I am the ONLY one who proposed it (purely as a COMPROMISE solution) and, as far as I know, the idea has not spread beyond the P&OC Forum on CD. The same cannot be said for the homosexual agenda to legalize their unions. That one is EVERYWHERE and has met with varying degrees of success.
In truth, I don't expect what I proposed to ever enter the widespread arena of public debate. It was more of an intellectual exercise than anything else.
Are you kidding? Civil unions have been proposed since before DOMA.
You mean wacked out like blacks marrying whites? 96% of the country opposed it. I agree it was a horrible thing to let happen. We should have a Constitutional ban on interracial marriage. It's what God would want, since he forbid the mixing of the races.
Lame.
skin color <> sexual choice. But I don't expect you guys to actually listen to reason.
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Usually this is where the "it's a choice" fallacious argument comes into play. Gays choose to be perverted abominations. Blacks don't choose their skin color.
You seem to understand the argument. Now, if you can separate your emotion from the facts, maybe you'll get it.
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I would appreciate not being called a liar as well, go back and reread the discussion, I did not "bring up" any kind of religious debate, no matter if you want to turn it into one or not.
What other term would you prefer?
