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View Poll Results: Do you support the above proposal?
I am heterosexual and I support the proposal 19 27.94%
I am homosexual and I support the proposal 9 13.24%
I am heterosexual and I do not support the proposal 28 41.18%
I am homosexual and I do not support the proposal 4 5.88%
None of the above options is appropriate for me 8 11.76%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-17-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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I can't vote on this because i'm bisexual and there is no category for me.
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:55 PM
 
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"Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."
Gen 2:24
Marriage predates the Bible, and that verse is not mutually exclusive. The Israelites authored the Bible from their perspective. The most common arrangement was a woman becoming the property of her husband instead of her father.

So yes, traditional marriage, as shown in the link I posted, primarily included women becoming the slaves of their husband through a business arrangement with the father.
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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The gays need to have their own ceremonies. Why this is so hard to accept, I'll never know. Grant the gays the rights that would be afforded under a marriage (hospital visitation, insurance, etc.), but do not call it marriage. There is no reason for the gays to get married. I don't know why we need to cave in to the desires of people with a chemical imbalance. Doesn't make any sense to me at all.
We cave into conservatives who have a chemical imbalance. But that seems ok with you since you're part of that group.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Marriage predates the Bible, and that verse is not mutually exclusive. The Israelites authored the Bible from their perspective. The most common arrangement was a woman becoming the property of her husband instead of her father.

So yes, traditional marriage, as shown in the link I posted, primarily included women becoming the slaves of their husband through a business arrangement with the father.

This first marriage, as accounted in Genisis, also predates the Bible by thousands of years.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:30 PM
 
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This first marriage, as accounted in Genisis, also predates the Bible by thousands of years.
Wrong, Genesis isn't literal. Civilizaton existed long before those events took place.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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LOL. I never really cared if we as gay people had "Unions" vs "Marriage". Then the anti-gays got all scared and starting passing laws outlawing gay marriage and I changed my tune (since my equality was now being attacked). Ironically a big part of the push for marriage and not just civil unions was a reaction to the antigays. If they had just quietly allowed civil unions to come to pass, it wouldn't be as big an issue as it is now.

Yeah, yeah, I know you'll say "I'm not scared", and " No, I'm not antigay" and "blah, blah blah blah". I'll save you the typing (whichever you you are". I wasn't talking about you
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Old 09-17-2011, 05:15 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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We cave into conservatives who have a chemical imbalance. But that seems ok with you since you're part of that group.
Actually I'm a liberal. I just don't agree with gay marriage. I have gay neighbors who I sometimes say hi to. I tolerate them living near me. I just don't agree with the idea that they should be able to get married to one another.
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Old 09-17-2011, 05:17 PM
 
Location: NC
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No. I prefer it if everyone was in a union if the ceremony was done in the courtroom, and the government would recognize marriage if the ceremony was performed by the church. That's win-win to me and that's how it worked for most of this country's history. Marriage is preserved for us with religious observance, and everyone else that doesn't believe in religion or God or a tree spirit can be in a union and even Christians can sign on to a union if they so wish.
This.
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Old 09-17-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Here
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North Carolina in its May Primary will vote for constitutional amendment to ban marriage, civil unions, domestic partnerships and other relationship recognition for same-sex couples.
The homosexual redefinitionists should have absolutely no problem with voting on the issue. If, as they would like to have everyone believe, that “everybody supports it” then the so-called “supportive” voters will vote their way and they will get what they want.

Outside of the homosexual fairy tale world they realize deep down that people do NOT want marriage redefined and extinguished just to satisfy an unhappy 3% of the population.
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Old 09-17-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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... when in reality, the only difference between gay people marrying and straight people marrying is the genetials. Nothing more, nothing less
Wrong. There is a LOT more to it than that. Only one coupling combination is capable of producing another human being and perpetuating the human race. Other coupling combinations do not have this capability. That is fundamentally why throughout time the man woman marriage is desired, wanted and valued and other coupling combinations are not.
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