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View Poll Results: Should the tax rate increase on people earning $1 million+ per year?
Yes 98 61.25%
No 62 38.75%
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:12 AM
 
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As he continued, Obama conceded that "we've got laws on the books that have to be upheld." But he quickly added there are different ways to uphold the laws on the books. "You know as well as anyone that…how we enforce those laws is also important," Obama said. Last month, the administration made a major, unilateral change in immigration law enforcement when it announced that the government will not initiate deportation proceedings against illegal immigrants unless they have committed serious crimes. To critics, Obama had indeed worked his way around Congress. To the Hispanic Caucus, Obama said his new policy will "prioritize criminals who endanger our communities, not students trying to achieve the American dream."


Notice here ^how Obama's comments are riddled with double-speak?
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Class warfare was declared three decades ago by the right-wing funded by billionaires. In that time, income and wealth concentration has returned to the 1920s robber baron days. Today, the top 400 taxpayers earn as much income as the bottom 150 million Americans. The top 0.1% have $46 trillion in wealth.
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In the land of Milk and Honey. that's how it goes.

work your way up to be #401 and I bet you'll feel the same way.
No, it doesn't go that way. That's the point. It's only happened within the last 30 yrs. The country I grew up in the 1960s had a middle class. It was a society without extremes of wealth or poverty (while there were still Rockefellers and ghettos) the society broadly shared prosperity, partly because strong unions, a high minimum wage, and a progressive tax system helped limit inequality. It was also a society in which political bipartisanship meant something: Democrats and Republicans agreed on basic values and could cooperate across party lines.

Income inequality declined drastically from the late 1930s to the mid 1940s, with the rich losing ground while working Americans saw unprecedented gains. This was a seminal episode in American history.

If I happen to find myself as one of the 400 wealthiest persons I'd be grateful and not be greedy about paying a few p% in taxes to a nation that provided so much.

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Old 09-20-2011, 09:14 AM
 
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I thought it only raised taxes on the top 2%, I didn't know we had that many billionaires on C-D
One doesnt need to be a billionaire to oppose the class envy stupid policies that are harming the nation.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Class warfare was declared three decades ago by the right-wing funded by billionaires. In that time, income and wealth concentration has returned to the 1920s robber baron days. Today, the top 400 taxpayers earn as much income as the bottom 150 million Americans. The top 0.1% have $46 trillion in wealth.
Sounds like a new 0bama campaign slogan,"Wealth, is a terrible thing, and we must stamp it out in our lifetime."
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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Oh, my God! Please try to understand what creates jobs!

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What a load. Taxes are levied on profits, and labor is an expenditure. Nobody hires a job because they have extra money, nor do they cut one because they have none. Labor depends on demand. If you have high enough demand, you hire another worker. If you have no demand (essentially what we have now), you lay off workers.
1. Those profits are invested somewhere...and that somewhere goes to creating new business, creating $'s to loan to create or expand business, and other areas that do, indeed, end up "creating jobs!" That's what makes the $'s roll over again and again to create a prosperous economy and thereby a prosperous society!

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Increasing taxes kills zero jobs.
Wrong, again!. Increasing taxes kills all the above "job creators" listed in my above paragraph! Please, do get into creating your own business...you will immediately understand how very wrong your thinking is.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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Yeah the Federal government creates nothing permanent, the Army, Navy, Air force and Marines are just Socialist, muslim Ponzi Schemes. Why should I have to pay my share to be an American, my loyalty is to Grover Norquist not America
Wait, wasnt that you who just a minute ago discussed how this only affected the top 2% of americans, and now you are discussing YOU paying "your share"..

That leaves either
1) You are part of the top 2% of americans
2) Or you flip flopped on the concern for paying your "fare share" in all of a few minutes.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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Increasing taxes kills zero jobs.
Using that theory, the federal government should tax EVERYONE at 100%. Think of how fabulous the economy would and how much revenue the us govt could have. Wow.. Your utopia world defies common sense.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No, it doesn't go that way. That's the point. It's only happened within the last 30 yrs.

No, I won't. If I happen to find myself as one of the 400 wealthiest persons I'd be grateful and not be greedy about paying a few p% in taxes to a nation that provided so much.
How much do you feel justified in taking from another citizen? Is taking 60% of a person's annual wealth enough? At what point do you think a person who has wealth, will decide to hide it from government? At which point is it nothing more then legalized theft?
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:22 AM
 
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No, I won't. If I happen to find myself as one of the 400 wealthiest persons I'd be grateful and not be greedy about paying a few p% in taxes to a nation that provided so much.
sure you would. you're the greatest Samaritan in America.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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Class warfare was declared three decades ago by the right-wing funded by billionaires. In that time, income and wealth concentration has returned to the 1920s robber baron days. Today, the top 400 taxpayers earn as much income as the bottom 150 million Americans. The top 0.1% have $46 trillion in wealth.
FAIL. The class warfare was declared by left wing kooks who think the government is there to support and maintain peoples livelyhood by giving them a check monthly which keeps them in poverty. How the hell do you expect people living on social security, welfare, etc to compete against those who get out and earn a living and invest everyday of their lives?

Tell me MTA, why is it the tops fault that so many at the bottom decide to settle for poverty?
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