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View Poll Results: Is Social Darwinism a cornerstone of American Conservatism
1. Yes 7 46.67%
2. No 8 53.33%
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:23 AM
 
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No, we just live in reality.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The rich are smart and hardworking, the poor are stupid and lazy. These ideas certainly seem to be very popular in conservative circles.

Social Darwinism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's called survival of the fittest and it is an intrinsic factor in the evolution of all species on earth. I thought lefties embraced science.

I guess when it goes against their own religion -Liberalism- then all bets are off.

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Old 09-18-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I believe it's become bedrock principle (along with anti-intellectualism). If you're conservative but believe in a moderate social safety net, many wouldn't view you as conservative.
Please don't tell me that you believe what exists in this country is a "safety net". Just please don't!

Maybe this is why some conservatives are anti-intellectual. You're a teacher, right?
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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Please don't tell me that you believe what exists in this country is a "safety net". Just please don't!
It's a safety blanket. When the government is dumping money into advertising for their free cell phones for example, that is an aggressive tactic to get people on government assistance. If people need it so bad to catch them (like a net) why the hell do we need to go out and market to them?

On a side note, destroying any and all safety nets is not a core conservative position.
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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I still don't have an answer.

Majority of conservatives on this board refuse to answer have responded with "well what about liberals?"

It appears as though deflecting and changing the subject is a cornerstone of American conservatism.
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:07 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Please don't tell me that you believe what exists in this country is a "safety net". Just please don't!

Maybe this is why some conservatives are anti-intellectual. You're a teacher, right?
I'm not here to debate whether what we have is a social safety net, but whether they should exist in the first place. And I don't believe many concervatives agree that there should be any such thing.

I find social darwinism to be immoral. Hence the source of my issues with American conservatism.
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:22 AM
 
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I'm not here to debate whether what we have is a social safety net, but whether they should exist in the first place. And I don't believe many concervatives agree that there should be any such thing.
And his obvious point is that conservatives' objection to our current system does not equate to an objection to any and all safety nets.
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:31 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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And his obvious point is that conservatives' objection to our current system does not equate to an objection to any and all safety nets.
So what parts of our current system would you keep Sambarrow?
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:39 AM
 
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So what parts of our current system would you keep Sambarrow?
Quite a complex topic for this thread. In short, a very minimal safety net, and charity over government wherever possible. My primary issue is the subsidization of stupid decisions.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Quite a complex topic for this thread. In short, a very minimal safety net, and charity over government wherever possible. My primary issue is the subsidization of stupid decisions.
I can agree with this. However to many on the far right that's enough to make you a socialist. I probably would have a more generous definition of "limited" safety net but other than that I think we'd probably be on the same page.
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