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View Poll Results: Do you think 250k is middle class?
Yes, increasing taxes on 250k is a tax increase on the "middle class" 57 36.77%
No, by definition, there is no way being within the top 2% should be considered middle class 98 63.23%
Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-20-2011, 07:06 AM
 
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:08 AM
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Also the poll choices are a bit misleading, taxes wouldn't be raised on the first "middle-class" $250k of income, but only every dollar earned past that. And I think the raise would be 3, at most 4%. So your hypothetical middle-class family earning $300k would see their taxes raise $50k*0.03 = $1500. That's 0.5% of their income.

In any case if the family can take deduction (home mortgage interest, children, etc) the effective tax bracket would be somewhat higher than $250k.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:15 AM
 
Location: South East
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See there you go again painting in broad strokes. You would probably consider me to be left leaning, given the demographics of this forum, but I'm not crying about people who make too much money. I could care less. I also could make blanket statements about how the right think that public employees make too much money because apparently they think teachers, firemen, garbagemen, and police officers shouldn't make more than 35k a year with no benefits. But then I'd be just as wrong as you and your statement. In this thread, we tried to establish where 250k falls on the class meter. It should fall in the upper middle class range. You really can't argue that. If you chose to live in the middle of Manhattan then you are going to be paying rich people prices.
I am not "painting in broad strokes" at all. It is the leftties policies that want to deem people making 250k rich and therefore take more in taxes from them. The left has been creating class warfare for some time and that is not something that can denied....just turn on the tv and watch any mainstream media outlet.

If you are of the ilk 'I will be responsible for myself and not try to take from others' than good for you! Most left are not.

In determining where 250k falls on the class meter, it should be looked at according to cost of living where one lives, along with other factors. It can not, and should not, be determined based on a base number.

Additionally, those owning businesses with employees (big or small) should not be chastised by the left if they are successful and in doing so, personally secure a nice lifestyle.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:16 AM
 
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There's a lot of people that are trying to correlate US median household income with the middleclass income. This is not a good way to categorize the middle class at all.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Only to a liberal mind where visions of entitlements dance along with plans to make life "fair" for everyone at the expense of those who achieve.
I make 65k a year.

I am quite happy with what I make.

I am not envious of others who make more.

If I wanted to make more money, I would.

I am not a slacker...your comment was, indeed, in poor taste.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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oh please

N.Y.C. so costly you need to earn six figures to make middle class
A New Yorker would have to make $123,322 a year to have the same standard of living as someone making $50,000 in Houston.
In Manhattan, a $60,000 salary is equivalent to someone making $26,092 in Atlanta.
You knew it was expensive to live in Manhattan, but Queens? The report tagged Queens the fifth most expensive urban area in the country.
Full-time day care costs can run up to $25,000 a year for one child

N.Y.C. so costly you need to earn six figures to make middle class - New York Daily News
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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There's a lot of people that are trying to correlate US median household income with the middleclass income. This is not a good way to categorize the middle class at all.
Then perhaps you could be so kind as to define the US middle class as from this much income at the low end to that much at the high end so I can figure out where I stand in the grand scheme of things. Thank you.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Average INDIVIDUAL Salary in Manhattan: $115,000

Average Salary: $115,000 (One of Many Fun Downtown Facts!) | The New York Observer
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I'm going with the posters who think it depends where you live and the cost of living where you live..
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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NYC is just one city. We need include the rest of the country too.
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