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Old 09-20-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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I can get the source but I need to leave here in a minute. Last Presidential election was the historic "first black president" election. Not this election. It's self evident but I'll get the sourcing and post it.
His whole presidency is a historical "moment" Many in the black community will want to extend that moment for as long as they can because there is no telling when this country elects another black president.
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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It's not a question of Obama not winning....he's not even fighting. He's not using the political power of his office to even make a fight for Democratic issues.
People that pay close attention know this.
Explain to me what Obama needs to do then?
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:51 PM
 
Location: USA
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He's expanded wars, broken laws, increased government secrecy, abused civil liberties, surrounded himself with Wall St lobbyists and other industry insiders, gave the green light to the GOP to cut Social Security and Medicare, caved on minor clean air standards, never once has he attempted to stand up and fight for liberal values.
Conservatives should just go vote for Obama then, he sounds like their dream candidate.
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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When the Republicans win it will be the 90's all over again. The 1890's that is. Rampant government supported capitalism and no unions or child labor laws along with contaminated meet and bogus drugs. Blacks and women will know their places and stay there.

HAPPY DAYS WILL BE HERE AGAIN!!! IF YOU ARE AN OWNER!
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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All you have to do is look back in history when democratic and republican presidents had low approval ratings facing re-election.

Previous modern presidents who have been re-elected to second terms have also held office during bad economies. President Ronald Reagan faced an unemployment rate of over 9 percent in 1983, similar to the current jobless rate, and his 46 percent job approval rating at this point in his presidency was similar to that of President Obama now yet Reagan got re-elected. In 1995, President Bill Clinton's approval rating was 43 percent even though the economy was in much better shape. The fact the Obama matches Bill Clinton's poll numbers the year before the second term election says a lot. The economy is much worse now than in 1995. People understand that Obama not only inherited this mess from a GOP administration, but they understand its going to take a long time to fix things and they understand that the GOP is a road block in congress to job growth. Job growth was slowly picking up until the GOP took over the house and halted Obama's policies. The gridlock in congress is causing the economy to slip back not Obama.
This is like a student who failed and got a 55 on an exam (Obama) bragging to the student who failed and got a 40 on an exam (GOP). What an insane point of view to have.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:21 PM
 
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All you have to do is look back in history when democratic and republican presidents had low approval ratings facing re-election.

Previous modern presidents who have been re-elected to second terms have also held office during bad economies. President Ronald Reagan faced an unemployment rate of over 9 percent in 1983, similar to the current jobless rate, and his 46 percent job approval rating at this point in his presidency was similar to that of President Obama now yet Reagan got re-elected. In 1995, President Bill Clinton's approval rating was 43 percent even though the economy was in much better shape. The fact the Obama matches Bill Clinton's poll numbers the year before the second term election says a lot. The economy is much worse now than in 1995. People understand that Obama not only inherited this mess from a GOP administration, but they understand its going to take a long time to fix things and they understand that the GOP is a road block in congress to job growth. Job growth was slowly picking up until the GOP took over the house and halted Obama's policies. The gridlock in congress is causing the economy to slip back not Obama.
Right.

The last time I checked, the definition of "popular" had something to do with a favorable sentiment toward an individual. Given that our elections are "popular" elections (barring a marked difference between the popular vote and the electoral college), Obama will lose big.

The difference between Reagan/Clinton and Obama is that the popularity of those presidents was RISING. The popularity of Obama is falling.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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I don't think Obama will be able to handle the criticism and lack of support from his own party and the re election campaign is going to really take a toll on him.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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People like padcrasher illustrate why the libs will rightfully enjoy a nice warm pizza and cozy up with a book on a cold November evening as opposed to waiting in line at the polls. Why bother if your candidate isn't bothering for you?

CDers are playing this both ways. On the forums, they'll claim that libs will make it to the polls, grumbling all the way. Privately, they're nervous to some degree.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Unless the GOP can produce better candidates, Obama will win re-election. Independents won't support extremist Perry who wants to end social security. There is no way Mitt Romney is going to beat Obama.
That's the thing. And GOP approval rating is in the teens, so that doesn't help either.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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As next November draws near, look for an marked increase in "If you're staying at home, you're actually voting Republican" and "Yeah Obama's bad, but the other guy is worse" troll threads. It will mark a very desperate time for the mommy basement dwellers.
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