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Old 09-23-2011, 07:57 AM
 
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Well this proud 'fundie' would be just fine with the boy saying that if it were his views and the topic was appropriately started in the appropriate situation. That IS what free speech is all about, right?

The leftie credo of 'good for thee, but not for me' does not equal free speech.
Gosh you have such a big heart! For the third time you've expressed support for free speech views that you already fully agree with....man...only a Christian could do that.

[Funny, nothing about pro homosexuality views in the classroom?]
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:57 AM
 
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Well this proud 'fundie' would be just fine with the boy saying that if it were his views and the topic was appropriately started in the appropriate situation. That IS what free speech is all about, right?

The leftie credo of 'good for thee, but not for me' does not equal free speech.
Free Speech has always been more limited in a school setting.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Well this proud 'fundie' would be just fine with the boy saying that if it were his views and the topic was appropriately started in the appropriate situation. That IS what free speech is all about, right?

The leftie credo of 'good for thee, but not for me' does not equal free speech.
You're right. It won't be right wingers who would have trouble with anything goes under free speech, in a classroom environment or anywhere else. Or, does the fundie in you think that only what your beliefs are should be allowed.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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Gosh you have such a big heart! For the third time you've expressed support for free speech views that you already fully agree with....man...only a Christian could do that.

[Funny, nothing about pro homosexuality views in the classroom?]
And once again you misread and misinterpret to suit your agenda. Kudos for staying consistent.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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You're right. It won't be right wingers who would have trouble with anything goes under free speech, in a classroom environment or anywhere else. Or, does the fundie in you think that only what your beliefs are should be allowed.

Does the radical in you feel the same??
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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Hey free speech Christians!

I think we can all agree that a German teacher putting up a series of pictures of German's in their everyday life that included a picture of two men holding hands in public among scores of other photo's depicting heterosexuals would be OK right?

Who's with me?
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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Hey free speech Christians!

I think we can all agree that a German teacher putting up a series of pictures of German's in their everyday life that included a picture of two men holding hands in public among scores of other photo's depicting heterosexuals would be OK right?

Who's with me?
This 'free speech Christian' is as tolerant of you and your beliefs as you are of mine.
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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Does the radical in you feel the same??
The radical in me, from where you stand, maintains the idea that free speech doesn't protect one from consequences. A student can't go preach his/her take on sex in a classroom, without being disciplined. A school isn't a place to preach. It is a place to learn. What next, you'd be suggesting that you always hated the idea of Don't Ask Don't Tell now?
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:08 AM
 
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Hey free speech Christians!

I think we can all agree that a German teacher putting up a series of pictures of German's in their everyday life that included a picture of two men holding hands in public among scores of other photo's depicting heterosexuals would be OK right?

Who's with me?
So in a Chinese class, I guess it would be okay to depict the practice of abandoning baby girls
http://www.taliacarner.com/images/marieclaire03.jpg
Since it's part of the culture and all, you know.
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:08 AM
 
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We got that. I've expressed 3 times in this thread so support for the kid's free speech rights despite the views being incredibly ignorant.

Now are you big enough to support free speech for teachers in the class room as well espousing views you don't agree with?

That's the question.
I'll answer your question, but I don't think it's 'the question.' 'The question' is should teachers punish opinions they disagree with or think might be unpopular or offensive.

As to Your question. Teachers are in a position of authority, with almost total control of a student's future in that class. So no, I don't believe they should have total freedom to express Personal opinions, whether or not I'd agree with those opinions.
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