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Old 09-23-2011, 08:20 PM
 
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I went to boarding school in CT. They've always said that but there's a lot of study on the issues of the rigor of standards. That being said, CT does traditionally perform well and I would say that their standards have always been in the upper quartile. SC has traditionally had issues with education, not a surprise given our rural poverty. Our legislations response was to make the standards some of the toughest in the nation. I can see their point but it's not exactly making up look fantastic in comparison to other states when rankings come out. Such is life - that's SC's choice to make.
I agree SC should be free to make their own choices.

I have yet to hear any politician from any state say Our state test is average. They are always claiming theirs is ever so much tougher than everyone else's. I believe I'd vote for the one who actually said this, no matter what his/her political beliefs were.
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Old 09-24-2011, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I agree SC should be free to make their own choices.

I have yet to hear any politician from any state say Our state test is average. They are always claiming theirs is ever so much tougher than everyone else's. I believe I'd vote for the one who actually said this, no matter what his/her political beliefs were.
That's great - I know what you mean! Wouldn't it be nice to get the truth once in a while? Nothing wrong with that. Just like SC's answer to terrible standings was to make our standards one of the highest - which does nothing to actually address the performance issues. Some reasonable responses instead of knee jerk reactions would be great once in a while.
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If this happens then all states will opt out because none of them can make the 100% passing rate.
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Calculus. Hell they don't even have a curriculum where you can get into calculus until your a senior around here. My oldest is a freshman this year and they are just now starting geometry. I remember taking that in seventh grade back in the day.
Surely you jest! When I was in school (Pleistocene era), the math curriculum was pretty rigid. Algebra started in 9th grade (freshman), then in most schools plane geometry the next year, then Alg. II, then solid geometry and trigonometry. The only way one could advance is to take summer school courses. Ten to 15 years ago, when my kids were in middle school, there were all sorts of options; kids were allowed to skip some of the elementary grade maths and move up, e.g. a 4th grader could be placed in 5th grade math, etc. By 6th grade, many of the academically oriented kids were doing pre-algebra, and the middle school had a combined 7/8 grade math course for those who had been accelerated up to that point. Some kids passed out of all the courses at the high school and went to the local university for math, e.g. higher level calc, etc. I can only imagine what's going on now. Perhaps you should dig up your 7th grade report card and look at what exactly you took.
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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Surely you jest! When I was in school (Pleistocene era), the math curriculum was pretty rigid. Algebra started in 9th grade (freshman), then in most schools plane geometry the next year, then Alg. II, then solid geometry and trigonometry. The only way one could advance is to take summer school courses. Ten to 15 years ago, when my kids were in middle school, there were all sorts of options; kids were allowed to skip some of the elementary grade maths and move up, e.g. a 4th grader could be placed in 5th grade math, etc. By 6th grade, many of the academically oriented kids were doing pre-algebra, and the middle school had a combined 7/8 grade math course for those who had been accelerated up to that point. Some kids passed out of all the courses at the high school and went to the local university for math, e.g. higher level calc, etc. I can only imagine what's going on now. Perhaps you should dig up your 7th grade report card and look at what exactly you took.
I'd like to see that report card, also...
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Old 09-24-2011, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Surely you jest! When I was in school (Pleistocene era), the math curriculum was pretty rigid. Algebra started in 9th grade (freshman), then in most schools plane geometry the next year, then Alg. II, then solid geometry and trigonometry. The only way one could advance is to take summer school courses. Ten to 15 years ago, when my kids were in middle school, there were all sorts of options; kids were allowed to skip some of the elementary grade maths and move up, e.g. a 4th grader could be placed in 5th grade math, etc. By 6th grade, many of the academically oriented kids were doing pre-algebra, and the middle school had a combined 7/8 grade math course for those who had been accelerated up to that point. Some kids passed out of all the courses at the high school and went to the local university for math, e.g. higher level calc, etc. I can only imagine what's going on now. Perhaps you should dig up your 7th grade report card and look at what exactly you took.
They now offer Algebra in 8th grade for those advanced students.
They skip 8th grade math and end up 1 year ahead. Then in HS they can take pre-calc or calculus based on test results.
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Old 09-24-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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They now offer Algebra in 8th grade for those advanced students.
They skip 8th grade math and end up 1 year ahead. Then in HS they can take pre-calc or calculus based on test results.
I am well aware of the bold as I outlined in my kids' middle school of 15 years ago. However, they didn't really skip 8th grade math, they took a combined 7/8 class in 7th grade, or they were accelerated early on and took 8th grade math in 7th. At least, back in the 90s and early 2000s.

We are talking about a poster's claim that he took geometry in 7th grade.
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Old 09-24-2011, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I am well aware of the bold as I outlined in my kids' middle school of 15 years ago. However, they didn't really skip 8th grade math, they took a combined 7/8 class in 7th grade, or they were accelerated early on and took 8th grade math in 7th. At least, back in the 90s and early 2000s.

We are talking about a poster's claim that he took geometry in 7th grade.
Could be G/T. Just because your kids school didn't offer it doesn't mean it didn't exist. Each state gets to make their own rules.
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Old 09-24-2011, 08:34 AM
 
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Yes- teachers shouldn't be held accountable. That certainly makes sense. BTW: are these union employees?
I thought right wingers were for state rights?

Unless it's a law passed by a Republican President
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Old 09-24-2011, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Central, IL
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I hate to admit it, but this is something I agree with Obama on. Well I guess the sun does shine on a dogs butt every now and then.
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