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Old 09-23-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Greer
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The sad part is that the secretary "paying more" has been explained ad nauseum, but the psuedo-intellect sheep still fall for his little tale.

Then when both left leaning and right leaning news exposed his Berkshire-Hathaway tax issues - somehow it doesn't mean anything to the emotional knee-jerk crowd.

I really shouldn't be surprised then so many fall for Buffet's con game and miss his PR campaign to sit next to Immelt at the gov't handout table.
It has been explained *how* Buffet has a lower tax rate than his secretary under our current tax laws. But that's not the issue. The issue is that the laws that allow it don't make sense.
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Old 09-23-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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It has been explained *how* Buffet has a lower tax rate than his secretary under our current tax laws. But that's not the issue. The issue is that the laws that allow it don't make sense.
And nothing on the table from the Obama administration is addressing this so it IS the issue at hand.
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Old 09-23-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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It has been explained *how* Buffet has a lower tax rate than his secretary under our current tax laws. But that's not the issue. The issue is that the laws that allow it don't make sense.
With Obama's current plan of raising taxes, does it even address capital gains taxes?
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Old 09-23-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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With Obama's current plan of raising taxes, does it even address capital gains taxes?
Nope. Buffet wins and the situation still exists.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Nope. Buffet wins and the situation still exists.
That's what I thought so really this whole "Buffett" issue is nothing more than demagoguery on Obama's part.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Greer
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Nope. Buffet wins and the situation still exists.
How does "Buffet win" if the situation he brought up (secreteries paying higher tax rates than billionaires) isn't fixed?
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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How does "Buffet win" if the situation he brought up (secreteries paying higher tax rates than billionaires) isn't fixed?
Huh? I see you still don't understand it. Are they addressing capital gains taxes in the proposal? I don't think they are, they are just trying to raise the minimum on INCOME taxes. If that's the case, the problem still exists because Buffet is only taxed on 100k INCOME. His rates won't see ANY change, he will continue to pay the lower percentage capital gains taxes on his main source of income.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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Huh? I see you still don't understand it. Are they addressing capital gains taxes in the proposal? I don't think they are, they are just trying to raise the minimum on INCOME taxes. If that's the case, the problem still exists because Buffet is only taxed on 100k INCOME. His rates won't see ANY change, he will continue to pay the lower percentage capital gains taxes on his main source of income.
From what I've read, Obama hasn't provided details of how this will be structured, not even the tax rate he will propose, so we don't know and so everyone here saying how it will fail is just speculating.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/us...pagewanted=all

but it sounds to me like it will be a minimum tax rate that applies to both earned income and capital gains for people with total income past $1m/year.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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From what I've read, Obama hasn't provided details of how this will be structured, not even the tax rate he will propose, so we don't know and so everyone here saying how it will fail is just speculating.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/us...pagewanted=all
We'll see, but he has not once mentioned capital gains taxes, only income over 1 mil.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:19 PM
 
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Nope. Buffet wins and the situation still exists.
you don't know that...

it's annoying how people just make sht up. Here is reality:

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Obama to propose new tax rate for millionaires - Sep. 18, 2011

The president will not specify a specific rate or details of the Buffett Rule in announcing his proposal, leaving it to Congress to decide how to calculate such a rate as part of the larger debate over rewriting the tax code, the official said.
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