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Old 09-26-2011, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Once again, this clown opens his mouth, and words drip out in the form of excrement.

Moore being interviewed on CNN (of course) by Piers Morgan claims that the US is in the same company as China and Iran when it comes to executions.

US: Since 1976 there have been 1267 executions. Of all death sentences, less than 2% is actually carried out. A death sentence is rarely anything less than 20 years of meals, appeals and lawyers on the publics' dime.

China: The Dui Hua Foundation estimate that China executed between 5,000 and 6,000 people in 2007, down from 10,000 in 2005.

US 1267 vs. China's over 200,000 executions in the same period. BTW, China runs their prisoners through a three-ring execution gauntlet so there's no humane sleeping death. Russia and China both believe bullets are worth more than the prisoners' life.

Crown Moore the king of ignorance and drop him off at the buffet.
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Once again, this clown opens his mouth, and words drip out in the form of excrement.

Moore being interviewed on CNN (of course) by Piers Morgan claims that the US is in the same company as China and Iran when it comes to executions.

US: Since 1976 there have been 1267 executions. Of all death sentences, less than 2% is actually carried out. A death sentence is rarely anything less than 20 years of meals, appeals and lawyers on the publics' dime.

China: The Dui Hua Foundation estimate that China executed between 5,000 and 6,000 people in 2007, down from 10,000 in 2005.

US 1267 vs. China's over 200,000 executions in the same period. BTW, China runs their prisoners through a three-ring execution gauntlet so there's no humane sleeping death. Russia and China both believe bullets are worth more than the prisoners' life.

Crown Moore the king of ignorance and drop him off at the buffet.
I agree with Michael Moore on a lot of stuff....not this though.

The bar needs to set high and better safeguards need to put in place, no executing innocent men or only the poor, but the DP needs to used early (fast track appeals) and as often as the need arises..

Btw, mocking Moore's weight does nothing for your argument and makes you look like a hypocrite..particularly when you have someone like Chris Christie on your side..
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Old 09-27-2011, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Greer
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The bar needs to set high and better safeguards need to put in place, no executing innocent men or only the poor, but the DP needs to used early (fast track appeals) and as often as the need arises..
Practically speaking, it is incredibly difficult if not impossible to make the death penalty faster, cheaper, and less likely to execute innocent people.

Making it faster and/or cheaper will inevitably reduce its accuracy.
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Old 09-27-2011, 07:02 AM
 
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Once again, this clown opens his mouth, and words drip out in the form of excrement.

Moore being interviewed on CNN (of course) by Piers Morgan claims that the US is in the same company as China and Iran when it comes to executions.

US: Since 1976 there have been 1267 executions. Of all death sentences, less than 2% is actually carried out. A death sentence is rarely anything less than 20 years of meals, appeals and lawyers on the publics' dime.

China: The Dui Hua Foundation estimate that China executed between 5,000 and 6,000 people in 2007, down from 10,000 in 2005.

US 1267 vs. China's over 200,000 executions in the same period. BTW, China runs their prisoners through a three-ring execution gauntlet so there's no humane sleeping death. Russia and China both believe bullets are worth more than the prisoners' life.

Crown Moore the king of ignorance and drop him off at the buffet.
Please tell us why ANYONE should care what this jackass says. Moore's takes his sensationalism to the bank,....so why is he any different than the corporations he bashes?
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Old 09-27-2011, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Denmark
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I agree with him. It doesn't matter how many people you execute. The death penalty is a barbaric form of punishment that keeps the US in the same company as Sudan, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Don't like being on that nasty list? Well abolish the death penalty then. Nearly all civilized nations have already done so.
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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The death penalty does not decrease crime, and doesn't solve a whole lot more than life in prison, except it's far more expensive.

The US has the highest incarceration rates, and re-incarceration rate in the world. Most of the 1st world opposes the death penalty. It's just another area where we live in the wrong century.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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Crown Moore the king of ignorance and drop him off at the buffet.
It took the Supremes stepping in not so long ago to stop the US from executing children. The US is one of the only 1st world countries that still have capital punishment. There's no valid reason other than emotion to have it.

Perhaps you should hit up that ignorance buffet along with Michael Moore. I don't agree wholeheartedly with the guy, but there's usually some point to what he says.

Perhaps if you took some time and looked into the issue you'd see this for yourself.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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The bar needs to set high and better safeguards need to put in place, no executing innocent men or only the poor, but the DP needs to used early (fast track appeals) and as often as the need arises..
The courts won't let you fast track it. Making things faster doesn't improve accuracy. It's sort of sad that you'd say that the government should be killing people when you don't have a clue of what you're talking about.

It doesn't reduce crime and it costs more. You'd have to be rather stupid to say that killing people is a good option.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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Do you guys who support getting rid of the death penalty really believe we should let murderers, rapists and pedophiles live and breath our air? Let the ones most deserving of death live and the ones most deserving of life be disposed of?
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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I wonder how many airlines this buffoon has been kicked off of because of his weight?
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