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Old 10-04-2011, 11:01 AM
 
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The consumers are the 'job creators'. Every time you shop, bring your car in for service, have your teeth checked, buy insurance, have your house repaired, book a hotel room, fly on vacation, order a pizza, etc.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:17 AM
 
Location: in area code 919 & from 716
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This has been my point! The Teabaggers and Faux are trying to shove that "job creator crap" down our collective throats! The majority of them (teabaggers) really do not have a clue between wage tax (which the majority of American pay) which is higher than capital gains tax which the wealthy get most of their money from. Wall St folks live off of money that they make from other's sweat and tears. These vultures do not create jobs they don't even use their own money! The few "job creators" that exist in this country provide jobs overseas anyway
I hear ya!! People cramming stuff down peoples throats

**** Especially when ol' Mister Obama is doing such an amazing successful job ...

have you given him his justified praises yet?

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A Silicon Valley maker of solar power arrays that was started with high hopes and $527 million in loans from the federal government said on Wednesday that it would cease operations. The failure of the company — and the loss to taxpayers (SOURCE)
less than a year after over half a BILLION dollar loan and they went Chapter 11

did they make any $100,000.00 jobs?

That was enough money to pay 5,270 people 100 grand for a year ...

or did you get confused when you said
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trying to shove that "job creator crap" down our collective throats
thinking of all the JOB CREATOR SUCCESS STORIES of when Pelosi pushed that ObamaCare on to all of America ...
EXCEPT HER SUPPORTERS WHO GOT THE JOB SAVING WAIVERS!
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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The rich pay crap wages, grumble about workers' rights and benefits, but rake in the cash earned by the workers.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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There are only a handful of CEO's out there that get paid the mega millions. Your average CEO will get no where near the amount of money as some of these CEO's that are headlined in the news or those CEO's of businesses that trade on the NYSE.

Spending money, whether on consumer products or investments is what ultimately drives the economy.
And ten people, with one hundred thousand apiece, are going to put a lot more of that money into the economy than one person with one million who is also more likely to put some of that money into economies abroad. If spending money is what drives the economy, then getting that money into the hands of the spending middle class is a smarter strategy than putting that money into the hands of the rich.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:30 AM
 
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The rich pay crap wages, grumble about workers' rights and benefits, but rake in the cash earned by the workers.
I hear ya ... why should they?
its only their butt on the line when mediocre employee's do thinks which cause law suits
we all know they don't risk their money to start a business
and we know employee's are too smart to start their own business
and when the boss is putting more hours in than any other employee to keep the business going ... it is no big issue .... until the jobs run out!
Don't like how they rake in the cash?
SIMPLE: Start your own business GENIUS and pay your workers better than you get ... or figure out that you lack the skill to do so.

You people have NO IDEA how hard it is to start and run a business
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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And ten people, with one hundred thousand apiece, are going to put a lot more of that money into the economy than one person with one million who is also more likely to put some of that money into economies abroad. If spending money is what drives the economy, then getting that money into the hands of the spending middle class is a smarter strategy than putting that money into the hands of the rich.
The IRS would agree with you......

That is why they do not tax the income you make, just what you keep.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:56 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I hear ya!! People cramming stuff down peoples throats

**** Especially when ol' Mister Obama is doing such an amazing successful job ...

have you given him his justified praises yet?

Actually he has done some good things as well as some not so good



less than a year after over half a BILLION dollar loan and they went Chapter 11

did they make any $100,000.00 jobs?

That was enough money to pay 5,270 people 100 grand for a year ...

or did you get confused when you said thinking of all the JOB CREATOR SUCCESS STORIES of when Pelosi pushed that ObamaCare on to all of America ...
EXCEPT HER SUPPORTERS WHO GOT THE JOB SAVING WAIVERS!

I have noticed that the refuticans have found a company that did not do well with the money that was lent to them, nevermind the other energy companies are doing fairly well. Nor do they mention that china was the real reason that it failed because of the cheap labor. If you want to play tic for tac on the political lines, what happen to all of the jobs that the wealthy suppose to have made since they had tax cuts for the last 10 years? 8 of those years you can't blame on Obama
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:10 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I hear ya ... why should they?
its only their butt on the line when mediocre employee's do thinks which cause law suits
we all know they don't risk their money to start a business
and we know employee's are too smart to start their own business
and when the boss is putting more hours in than any other employee to keep the business going ... it is no big issue .... until the jobs run out!
Don't like how they rake in the cash?
SIMPLE: Start your own business GENIUS and pay your workers better than you get ... or figure out that you lack the skill to do so.

You people have NO IDEA how hard it is to start and run a business

There is the probelm! you are trying to compare operating a business with running a corporation. there are completly different rules in play when you deal with corporations. the CEOs don't usually know anything about how the "producing" part of the company works, unlike a small company where the owner knows his/her business from the top to the bottom

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Old 10-04-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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I have noticed that the refuticans have found a company that did not do well with the money that was lent to them, nevermind the other energy companies are doing fairly well. Nor do they mention that china was the real reason that it failed because of the cheap labor. If you want to play tic for tac on the political lines, what happen to all of the jobs that the wealthy suppose to have made since they had tax cuts for the last 10 years? 8 of those years you can't blame on Obama
really?
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The $787 billion economic stimulus package was approved by Congress in February, 2009. The package was designed to quickly jump start economic growth, and save between 900,000-2.3 million jobs. The package allocated funds as follows:
  • $288 billion in tax cuts.
  • $224 billion in extended unemployment benefits, education and health care.
  • $275 billion for job creation using federal contracts, grants and loans.
(SOURCE)
... and what did that do?
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I have noticed that the refuticans have found a company that did not do well with the money that was lent to them
did you notice that the refuticans (as you dumbatards call us) have found a president that did not do well with the money that was lent to him?
and your solution is throw MORE money in the fire?
... after all you can ALWAYS raise taxes on the rich - what the heck! your money is safe!

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There is the probelm! you are trying to compare operating a business with running a corporation
... and the problem is those who complain about the rich think upper middle class is rich and those complainers aren't creating anything but discourse and making the real job creators watch real carefully who they hire
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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really?

... and what did that do?

did you notice that the refuticans (as you dumbatards call us) have found a president that did not do well with the money that was lent to him?

Sorry, not politically loyal to any group I tend to think for myself and pick the best candidate. As far as I'm concern very few of them do, but I will not back anyone whose interests is the polar opposite of my own
and your solution is throw MORE money in the fire?
... after all you can ALWAYS raise taxes on the rich - what the heck! your money is safe!

But when do you think that will happen without a fight?


... and the problem is those who complain about the rich think upper middle class is rich and those complainers aren't creating anything but discourse and making the real job creators watch real carefully who they hire

What about those who do know the difference between the two? The poorer that you are the the wider the gap appears to be. In other words it is not their fault if they can't eat but think they those who eat lobster and steak are rich. The plans that the eight mental dwarfs are more corporation geared and not people geared. There are exceptions to that since many of the people that follow them are not wrapped too tight in the first place
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