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Old 09-30-2011, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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Really? The heterosexual posters in this thread seem to be just as concerned with enforcing their idea of gender as the parents of this child.
That's most likely the case with mothers than fathers.

 
Old 09-30-2011, 11:18 PM
 
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Of course Europe is much more secular, while here there remains a strong nutjob evangelical influence which stifles rational thought.

btw, dont these pro gay marriage european nations have a much lower divorce rate among straight couples than here in U.S. ?
Yeah. Lower teen pregnancy and I believe abortion rates too.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 11:19 PM
 
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The kid is a nutcase by all indications. He thinks he's something he isnt. If his guardians arent going to actually help him function normally then he might as well go ahead and mutilate his mind (and body for that matter) with hormones. If he's already so disturbed that he thinks he's something he's not, he surely would never be able to keep a job and be a productive member of society anyway.

Thats like "helping"/enabling an anorexic person by taking them to weight watchers so they can continue to waste away and fueling their skewed perception of themselves.

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Old 10-01-2011, 04:09 AM
 
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>90% of children reported to have GID grow out of it. That is why this is bad.
No. They don't. Where did you get that idea?
 
Old 10-01-2011, 05:17 AM
 
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So sad. What physician is practicing such quackery on a prepubescent juvenile and why are they allowed to do so?
You could always read the article and find out the facts.....

Nah...why would you want to do that?
 
Old 10-01-2011, 05:20 AM
 
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Same with the U.S.

Most Say Homosexuality Should Be Accepted By Society - Pew Research Center

Further, 6 states recognize same sex marriage in the US with another 15 recognizing some form of civil union for gays.

However, in light of two married lesbians deciding that it is a good idea to give a prepubescent boy hormone injections, maybe the states that don't allow it are on to something.
And yet....they aren't giving him hormone injections.

They are giving him subcutaneus hormone blockers to delay puberty until he is old enough to decide for himself. On the advice from specialists in this field.

It seems that a majority of people posting negative comments on this thread have not even read the article.

What does that say?
 
Old 10-01-2011, 05:23 AM
 
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How do you know that? Two parents who are both female could have influenced his psychological disposition to want to chang his sex. Such bias from the parents would have not been good for the child or the parents to make such a choice.
Because there is no evidence to support that idea and plenty of evidence that opposes it.

Heres a story of heterosexual parents with a very similar story with their son. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=90273278
 
Old 10-01-2011, 05:28 AM
 
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What is this, the 1800's?
I'm thinking more....different reality. Or planet.
 
Old 10-01-2011, 05:33 AM
 
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It's quackery!

Nature gave the kid hormones.

This medicine with a political agenda.
Get back to us if you ever you get a clue about hormones and fetal brain development.
And what's 'political' about it?

Sexual hormones and the brain: an essential alliance for sexual identity and sexual orientation (2010)
Endocr Dev. 2010;17:22-35. Epub 2009 Nov 24. Garcia-Falgueras A, Swaab DF.

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The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb.

However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain.

There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.
 
Old 10-01-2011, 05:36 AM
 
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Some of the stuff this child has said and done indicates there is a real problem. I'm not there and don't see him so I don't have any insight, but his Dr's and therapist might. And apparently his older brothers are ok being boys so this isn't a "lesbian mom" thing. Whatever the case, I wouldn't put my kids life at risk to make a point about "people born with a penis are a boy...period". I'd do what I could to make sure they could live and be comfortable in their skin.
You are one of the few posters on this thread who seems to have read the article.
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