Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Huh??? Why would us Godless liberals be upset by the death of an avowed terrorist an enemy of the US - especially an extremely religious and extremely conservative one?
You know what's troubling? That you, who purports to be of a legal background, see nothing wrong with killing American's via Exectuive Order.
You think you've got it all figured out, but in reality it appears that you're a legal lightweight with a rough time reconciling your own principles with the law.
You should be embarrassed to call yourself a legal professional.
Really! And, are you making your lovely statement from a fully informed, background in US Intelligence along with Top Secret Clearance giving you admission to all documentation and reports that led up to this mission?
I think not! Because if you were privileged to such information 1) you would be immediately fired and have all clearances cancelled for even entering into this discussion and 2) you would not even "think" such foolish statements because you would know better!
We the citizens of America that are not directly involved in the CIA/FBI/those-that-need-to-know positions will never know the hows, why, and who really called the mission and pushed the button, and we should never know. I am so disgusted when the News Media starts reporting how missions went down and the details of same! Why don't we just send a copy of our plans to the enemy! For those of you who are old enough to remember, during World War II, no reporting from the war zone was allowed out into the airwaves for something like 10 days to 2 weeks and some material was never approved until after the war was over.
Civilian law cannot be applied to military war. I think the Civil War set the precedent (if you want to hang your hat on that word) when American citizens fought and killed American citizens on American soil. Also, remember that every single war we have fought has changed from one to the next as far as tactics, maneuvers, weapons and execution. The one we are now facing world-wide is against, not a country or soldiers in uniform, but radical groups with no uniform or country who hide behind women and children (real big men, eh?) and are sworn to kill any human on earth who does not bow down to them and their radicalization of the Koran! When you have leadership who will tell someone they have to strap on a bomb and blow people up or they will kill your family or brainwash children into thinking it is their destiny to strap on that bomb and blow up themselves and others, there are no principles that can be used other than kill them. You are certainly not going to "reprogram" their thinking, they will always be destructive killers and should never be allowed to destroy good people.
Really! And, are you making your lovely statement from a fully informed, background in US Intelligence along with Top Secret Clearance giving you admission to all documentation and reports that led up to this mission?
I think not! Because if you were privileged to such information 1) you would be immediately fired and have all clearances cancelled for even entering into this discussion and 2) you would not even "think" such foolish statements because you would know better!
We the citizens of America that are not directly involved in the CIA/FBI/those-that-need-to-know positions will never know the hows, why, and who really called the mission and pushed the button, and we should never know. I am so disgusted when the News Media starts reporting how missions went down and the details of same! Why don't we just send a copy of our plans to the enemy! For those of you who are old enough to remember, during World War II, no reporting from the war zone was allowed out into the airwaves for something like 10 days to 2 weeks and some material was never approved until after the war was over.
Civilian law cannot be applied to military war. I think the Civil War set the precedent (if you want to hang your hat on that word) when American citizens fought and killed American citizens on American soil. Also, remember that every single war we have fought has changed from one to the next as far as tactics, maneuvers, weapons and execution. The one we are now facing world-wide is against, not a country or soldiers in uniform, but radical groups with no uniform or country who hide behind women and children (real big men, eh?) and are sworn to kill any human on earth who does not bow down to them and their radicalization of the Koran! When you have leadership who will tell someone they have to strap on a bomb and blow people up or they will kill your family or brainwash children into thinking it is their destiny to strap on that bomb and blow up themselves and others, there are no principles that can be used other than kill them. You are certainly not going to "reprogram" their thinking, they will always be destructive killers and should never be allowed to destroy good people.
If enough people simply had faith in their Government, there would be no need for courts.
Why did we give McVeigh a trial? Why was there such outrage over the "innocent" black man that just got the death penalty on death row?
Is killing an American police officer not a plot and an attack against America by a "former" American?
Both McVeigh and the black man were individuals...not part of groups that declared war on the US and the rest of the world to kill all "non believers" of their radical interpretation of the Koran! No comparison.
Curious how the right wants to spin good news against those that brought it about.
Face it The repugs just never made the elimination of the Al Queda operatives a priority. While many wish to slam the left, the proof is in the pudding.
Again, you have no idea what went on behind Top Secret closed doors and you will never know. And...you never should know. Knowing how responsible people work, I would bet the ranch you would be shocked to find out just how many plots and people were eliminated before they could execute harm to not only us, but other people in the world.
A difference here - Awlaki was a KNOWN mastermind and supporter of terrorism. Not all of the detainees in Guantanamo were terrorists.
But the ones retained are those captured in the field of battle killing or trying to kill Americans. The ones that were in the wrong place at the wrong time (very few) were released.
Obama, the military and CIA ate doing a great job eliminating these terrorists.
I agree, although I would "re-order" your list. It is the CIA and military who do all the work and put it together...Obama simply gives an okay on something he probably barely understands.
I agree, although I would "re-order" your list. It is the CIA and military who do all the work and put it together...Obama simply gives an okay on something he probably barely understands.
The Obama administration says he was a key cleric and his death was major to crippling Al-Quada.
Well this article interviews a few Muslims and they all say he was a nobody and that your average person in the ME would have no clue who he was. Makes ya wonder, doesn't it ?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/wo...shrugs.html?hp
While Western officials and commentators saw the end of Mr. Awlaki as another serious loss for Al Qaeda, a very different reception in the Middle East was the latest reminder of the disconnect between American aims and Arab perceptions. In a region transfixed by the drama of its revolts, Mr. Awlaki’s voice has had almost no resonance.
The Obama administration says he was a key cleric and his death was major to crippling Al-Quada.
Well this article interviews a few Muslims and they all say he was a nobody and that your average person in the ME would have no clue who he was. Makes ya wonder, doesn't it ?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/wo...shrugs.html?hp
While Western officials and commentators saw the end of Mr. Awlaki as another serious loss for Al Qaeda, a very different reception in the Middle East was the latest reminder of the disconnect between American aims and Arab perceptions. In a region transfixed by the drama of its revolts, Mr. Awlaki’s voice has had almost no resonance.
His voice seemed to resonate well enough with the Ft. Hood killer.
And, not to seem overally cynical, but, does anyone really believe that people are going to come right out and say, "oh, yeah, he was a big influence on me."
Really?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.