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My dogs killed a couple birds last week in the back yard. I hope the EPA doesn't hear about it.
The green hypocrisy is astounding. These folks have no problem going to war for their rare earth elements either that are required to build their "green" energy. JP Morgan is right now in Afghan with the US army escorting them into area's to mine this stuff.
There is a plant close to here that used to build washers/dryers and they were sent to mehico so now they build the giant blades that hang of these windmills. See em driving along the interstate all the time. Year or so ago I notice that on the last fifty feet or so they had begun installing sawblades on the things. Apparently the birds were doing damage to the ends when they hit so a sawblade will just chop em up and leave the blades operable. Wonder how many greenies even know they are building giant bird choppers across this great land of ours.
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My dogs killed a couple birds last week in the back yard. I hope the EPA doesn't hear about it.
The green hypocrisy is astounding. These folks have no problem going to war for their rare earth elements either that are required to build their "green" energy. JP Morgan is right now in Afghan with the US army escorting them into area's to mine this stuff.
Ummmm ..... we're not over there to steal their rare earth elements. They're more than happy to sell them to us at a good price. We're there because paleoconservatives want us there, and that's because the "defense" contractors they own stock in want ...... well, they want more defense contracts. It stands to reason, doesn't it?
Obama's not sitting around thinking, Wow - I sure wish we could have some more neodymium for magnets and indium for solar panels, batteries and green gadgets ..... let's keep a useless war going that undermines my credibility among liberals!
No, it's more like GE's CEO is saying to Obama: "Hey, dude, don't forget who put you in power and who will contribute tons of money toward your re-election and the Dems in general. We've got to finish designing that new cruise missile that can not only hit a wedding reception in the outskirts of Kabul, but can zero in on a particular falafel ball in a plate full of them. If you pull the military out of overseas wars, there won't be any need for the US govt to blow money on that and improving other useless gadgets at enormous expense!"
The more high tech toys GE designs, and the more lobster-and-steak meals Halliburton serves overseas, the bigger the profits for those corporations. They're the ones who own Congress, not the impoverished greenies.
A lot more money to be made in rare earth elements and all the gold, jewels, copper etc. than feeding the troops. Ask JP Morgon and whoever else is running around over there trying to start up mines. Where else do you suggest we get it from? China? They're hoarding theirs now and the only mine in the US who produces it has been shut down for ten years thanks to the EPA. YOu think if we pulled out of Afghan we would just stop developing better weapons? LOL. Keep howling your Halliburton tune maybe one day you'll wake up. I doubt it though.
The oil waste pits are not an acceptable risk. The oil companies need to cover and dispose of such toxic waste sites. If animals gain entry and are killed, it's the oil companies fault. The feds are going a little overboard but if you had a choice between fining a small company on a technicality or a large company with a terrible record on the environment AND a huge bank account, which one would you pick?
On the other hand, the wind power blades cannot avoid killing birds, just like a jet engine can't help but suck in the occasional flock. I don't think this ruling is hypocritical. There's no way to stop the birds from flying into the blades but there is a way to keep them from flying into "oil waste pits" that shouldn't be exposed in the first place.
Well at least we know which house you'll rob if times get hard...
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JP Morgan does not need the US Army over there to get the minerals. They can do that by buying whatever they need, or rather financing the mines owned by Afghans. They can get buy and finance mines without them being controlled inefficiently by our enormous army. The corporations that buy rare earths can get a better price WITHOUT the US Army driving up local costs.
In other words, Afghanistan is not going to hog the minerals to themselves, unlike China which can afford strategic maneuvers. Afghanistan desperately needs more money to buy a more luxurious lifestyle for its leaders, so they will invite JP in to finance new mines.
We're over there because GE and Halliburton and all the other "defense" contractors make more profit when we're over there. Again, THEY are the ones who own Congress, not environmentalists.
JP Morgan does not need the US Army over there to get the minerals. They can do that by buying whatever they need, or rather financing the mines owned by Afghans. They can get buy and finance mines without them being controlled inefficiently by our enormous army. The corporations that buy rare earths can get a better price WITHOUT the US Army driving up local costs.
In other words, Afghanistan is not going to hog the minerals to themselves, unlike China which can afford strategic maneuvers. Afghanistan desperately needs more money to buy a more luxurious lifestyle for its leaders, so they will invite JP in to finance new mines.
We're over there because GE and Halliburton and all the other "defense" contractors make more profit when we're over there. Again, THEY are the ones who own Congress, not environmentalists.
Who said anything about the military controlling the mines? Do some investigating into what is going on instead of squealing about Halliburtion. Just because your told to do so doesn't mean you can't break a way and learn something for yourself. May not pay as well though.
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Quite the same way that I feel about you, KU. I think you're brainwashed. Even though you know that Halliburton is a corporation and that corporations's only motives are profits, even though you know that Halliburton had the foresight to place one of its men in high office (the Vice Presidency), and even though you know that said VP not only claimed Iraq was a threat to us and got us INTO war, but also awarded a no-bid contract to Halliburton - even though you know ALL those things, you still can't or won't connect the dots.
That's because you're trusting the wrong people to do your thinking for you.
By the way, I think liberals and radicals who claim that we got into the Iraq War to steal their oil, were being just as stupid. "Blood for Oil" is entirely as unthoughtful as "we're in Afghanistan to steal their rare earth minerals". Iraq was entirely willing to sell us their oil at much lower prices than we got by invading. What good was the oil doing for Saddam underground? He needed more money, not more Petro-Pomade.
I can't speak to the killing of birds with oil. . .but a wind turbine is a man made structure. So lets review . . .deaths to birds.
Doesn't look like Turbines are very high on the list. . .
Man-made structure/technology
Associated bird deaths per year (U.S.)
Feral and domestic cats
Hundreds of millions [source: AWEA]
Power lines
130 million -- 174 million [source: AWEA]
Windows (residential and commercial)
100 million -- 1 billion [source: TreeHugger]
Pesticides
70 million [source: AWEA]
Automobiles
60 million -- 80 million [source: AWEA]
Lighted communication towers
40 million -- 50 million [source: AWEA]
Wind turbines
10,000 -- 40,000 [source: ABC]
Maybe the fact that these birds are supposed to be federally protected everywhere and all the time
should make a difference?
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They're more than happy to sell them to us at a good price. We're there because paleoconservatives want us there, and that's because the "defense" contractors they own stock in want ...... well, they want more defense contracts. It stands to reason, doesn't it?
