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Old 10-05-2011, 01:32 PM
 
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Yes, but they would have looked basically the same under a Republican, too. It was pretty clear that anyone who won the last election was going to be majorly hosed. This is what happens in a depression.
You're right. Reagan inherited a recession as bad as, if not worse than, the one Obama inherited and, like Obama, and proceeded to make the economy worse so that he was a one-term president. Oops. Never mind!
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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My mistake, I looked at the wrong data. Now, that said, what does the price of gas have to do with the President, any President? Do they set the prices, Nope. Would more drilling since he entered office have lowered the price? Nope. So along with so many other of the items listed in the article it is just another failed whine by the right. Next!
You did not call my facts a lie but you did call someon else fact a lie.
So bush also had no control over gas prices is that correct
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:42 PM
 
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My mistake, I looked at the wrong data. Now, that said, what does the price of gas have to do with the President, any President? Do they set the prices, Nope. Would more drilling since he entered office have lowered the price? Nope. So along with so many other of the items listed in the article it is just another failed whine by the right. Next!
well to begin with it was a good bit lower than it is now and Barak Obama stated the price had to get higher to change peoples driving habits.

the quote has been provided and the story has the link.


All I know is this is one of the rare instances that Obama made a promise and followed thru.


and as per usual this is bad for Americans.


and you people were freaked out when Rush wished failure on this president. Obama success hurts this country!
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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Looks like a good case on the part of the article, that is until one looks at it closely (devils and details are always mixed together).
Unemployment Rate: Again the job losses are not a result of what Obama has done while in office and in fact if he had not bailed out some companies the rate would be even higher. One more time: it is not the job of the Government to create jobs, only Socialists believe this and only Liars complain about the rate as if it is their job but then have no idea on how to create any themselves.
Weeks Unemployed: Again this is all realted to the Same economic downturn and again none of this has anything to do with the President. Now if you want to talk about what he has done to try and help those drawing unemployment, he has extended benefits several times, no thanks to Repubs that held at least one extension hostage to ensure the rich kept their tax CUTS.
Sorry Casper, Barak OBAMA said if we passed his trillion dollar stimulus package, unemployment would not rise above 8%

It got passed by a democrat controlled house and senate with vertually no input from republicans. OBama OWNS the unemployment rate because he SAID he did.
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:50 PM
 
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You did not call my facts a lie but you did call someon else fact a lie.
So bush also had no control over gas prices is that correct
Correct, why do you keep bringing up Bush, do you want to blame him for something?
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Correct, why do you keep bringing up Bush, do you want to blame him for something?
Did you blame Bush for high gas prices?
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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Looks like a good case on the part of the article, that is until one looks at it closely (devils and details are always mixed together).
Insurance Premiums: What on earth does that have to do with Obama, grasping at straws there, don't like what you pay go shop around, isn't that what you righties always say on this board, cannot afford it, too bad, just die already. And let's not even mention healthcare reform, which would lower the costs of healthcare, unlike what you righties may claim.



Casper I agree with you that the devil is int hte details. But I dont think you like the details. In fact I think you are ignoring the details because they really stink for you progressives that love Obama.


Fact 1: Obama passed the largest healthcare "reform" bill in the history of this country.

Fact 2: Obama said the following:
"We will work with your employer to lower your
premiums by $2500 per family per year"

Bottom line Casper, Obama owns this issue. Obama made a promise and proved he didn’t have a clue.
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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Sorry Casper, Barak OBAMA said if we passed his trillion dollar stimulus package, unemployment would not rise above 8%

It got passed by a democrat controlled house and senate with vertually no input from republicans. OBama OWNS the unemployment rate because he SAID he did.
So, he was wrong, what would the Repubs done that was different?, The answer is nothing. Clue, the President and the government are not in the business of creating JOBs, too bad you don't know that.
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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Did you blame Bush for high gas prices?
Nope, even though he was an oilman and believed in giving them huge tax breaks and Millions of federal money to explore for oil so they could sell it back to us for Billions more in profits. Gas prices are not set by the government, do you believe in the socialist idea that they should?
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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So, he was wrong, what would the Repubs done that was different?, The answer is nothing. Clue, the President and the government are not in the business of creating JOBs, too bad you don't know that.

Great googly moogly. "he was wrong" but you want to excuse the guy? keep him in office?

your answers boggle the mind my friend.
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