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Old 10-03-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Yes, they are safe. Tasty too.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:48 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Well we know that they won't kill you, at least right away or most of us would already be dead, but what are the long term effects.?

Are Genetically Modified Foods Safe To Eat? | Mother Jones
Many things won't kill you - immediately - but they will kill you in the long run. GMO foods have been shown to compromise and impair organ functioning as well as PROVEN to affect fertility levels in test animals. Of course, they cannot test on humans, so the effects upon us cannot be known until after years of exposure, and by then it will be too late.

Non-GMO foods, especially heirloom varieties, grown under "traditional" or organic methods (not factory farming), have been shown to contain higher levels of nutrients. Since, ostensibly, we EAT to be healthy and consume nutrients, why would any rational, sane person choose an inferior product simply because it "looks" prettier?

Personally, I try to avoid GMO products, but it is almost impossible to do so. Even the "maltodextrin" that you find as an ingredient is made from GMO corn products. Unless you eat unprocessed, organic, (or home grown), produce, you are most certainly exposed to GMO ingredients. And this factor could very well be the reason why the United States is one of the sickest nations in the developed world.

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Old 10-03-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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You are completely wrong. What you described is not at all or in any way genetically engineered. Selective breeding or grafting are not genetically engineered. I suggest that you read up on the topic so that you can inform yourself on what it really is, what are the possible dangers of it and what are the benefits. Then you can come to some conclusions based of reality and not on unimformed opinion.
so you are saying that grafting one section of a plant to a different species is not genetic engineering? you are the one that is wrong. grafting DOES change the genetics of a plant.
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:47 PM
 
Location: SC
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Well we know that they won't kill you, at least right away or most of us would already be dead, but what are the long term effects.?

Are Genetically Modified Foods Safe To Eat? | Mother Jones
There are 67 known health problems GMOs cause and they've been known for a long time. You have a 70% chance of buying products that contain GMOs if you shop in a regular grocery store -- EVEN IF you read labels as the FDA doesn't make the food companies indicate whether GMO ingredients were used or not.

For the health problems : Dangers of Genetically Engineered Foods - Seeds of Deception

For how to know who the GOOD companies are that don't use GMO ingredients go to: Non-GMO Shoppers’ Guide « The True Food Network
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:23 PM
 
Location: The cupboard under the sink
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5 pages of responses, and barely one reply which has any sense, never mind facts in it !!

Never have I known people to get so animated, or so obsessed about a subject which they know NOTHING about.

My fiancee does this stuff for a living, she has a masters, and a phd in molecular plant biology, her specialism is in plant disease resistance, especially to do with nitric oxide signalling of the plant.

Understand that, do you ?

No ??

And yet you feel so informed about the subject of genetic engineering that you'll willingly post all your crap on message boards on the internet, no doubt based on an article you read in 1985 or something.

You guys know better than all these folks who have spent 10 years+ at university, with the best knowledge base, facilites and equipment available ??


Bullcrap.

What a lot of hysterical nonsense.
Anyone remember how "you can get AIDS from a toilet seat" ?
or how "smoking was good for you ?"

Similar principles.

Much hysteria about catching autism from innoculations recently, how salt is bad for you, how aspartame can make you senile, all of which are now being shown to be false.

Genetic engineering is not as sinister as you might think. It has gone on for years, naturally, and artificially.
It happens with animals, to name a few-the Jackass, a cross between a horse and a donkey, most dogs are genetically engineered by cross breeding, we breed them for size, for obedience, for intelligence.
We do the same with cats, cows can be bred to produce milk, or leather, or meat.
The list is endless

Whether you like it or not, pretty much everything you eat is some sort of genetic mutation from something else, nature is a very miraculous thing !!
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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so you are saying that grafting one section of a plant to a different species is not genetic engineering? you are the one that is wrong. grafting DOES change the genetics of a plant.
No it freakin does not. Take the entire apple industry as an example. Every single apple tree out there grown for commercial purposes is a graft. It's a "CLONE" of the original apple tree it came from. There has been ZERO change to the genetics of either the apples produced or the actual tree it's self above the graft union.
. The root stock is a completely different kind of tree altogether, Maybe not even an apple tree.

There are many plants that you have to "Graft" "Clone" in order to get a type. Ecvery apple produced from a seed, "Sexual" reproduction, will be a one of a kind individual just like you and I.

I like growing roses. Every rose I have is a type grafted onto a hardy root stock. These roses are in NO MANNER at all genetically altered!!!!


SHESH!! DA NOIVE OF SOME PEOPLE!!!!
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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5 pages of responses, and barely one reply which has any sense, never mind facts in it !!

Never have I known people to get so animated, or so obsessed about a subject which they know NOTHING about.

My fiancee does this stuff for a living, she has a masters, and a phd in molecular plant biology, her specialism is in plant disease resistance, especially to do with nitric oxide signalling of the plant.

Understand that, do you ?

No ??

And yet you feel so informed about the subject of genetic engineering that you'll willingly post all your crap on message boards on the internet, no doubt based on an article you read in 1985 or something.

You guys know better than all these folks who have spent 10 years+ at university, with the best knowledge base, facilites and equipment available ??


Bullcrap.

What a lot of hysterical nonsense.
Anyone remember how "you can get AIDS from a toilet seat" ?
or how "smoking was good for you ?"

Similar principles.

Much hysteria about catching autism from innoculations recently, how salt is bad for you, how aspartame can make you senile, all of which are now being shown to be false.

Genetic engineering is not as sinister as you might think. It has gone on for years, naturally, and artificially.
It happens with animals, to name a few-the Jackass, a cross between a horse and a donkey, most dogs are genetically engineered by cross breeding, we breed them for size, for obedience, for intelligence.
We do the same with cats, cows can be bred to produce milk, or leather, or meat.
The list is endless

Whether you like it or not, pretty much everything you eat is some sort of genetic mutation from something else, nature is a very miraculous thing !!

Well the old saying is surely true. It takes one to know one". You try to make it seem like you know what your talking about and then spout completely wrong information that even every single layman should know. CROSS BREEDING IS NOT GM. A Labradoddle is a hybrid not GM. That's basic grade 9 biology.

If in my garden a watermellon and a cucumber by accident cross pollinate and I get big useless watercuks, they are not GM. They are a hybrid.

GM is actually adding something to the genetic makeup of the species. Something that could not happen in nature by any kind of cross breeding or selective breeding.
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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Well the old saying is surely true. It takes one to know one". You try to make it seem like you know what your talking about and then spout completely wrong information that even every single layman should know. CROSS BREEDING IS NOT GM. A Labradoddle is a hybrid not GM. That's basic grade 9 biology.

If in my garden a watermellon and a cucumber by accident cross pollinate and I get big useless watercuks, they are not GM. They are a hybrid.

GM is actually adding something to the genetic makeup of the species. Something that could not happen in nature by any kind of cross breeding or selective breeding.
Thanks for maintaining some clarity in this courtroom.

Watercukes might be OK in hybrid moussaka.
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well the old saying is surely true. It takes one to know one". You try to make it seem like you know what your talking about and then spout completely wrong information that even every single layman should know. CROSS BREEDING IS NOT GM. A Labradoddle is a hybrid not GM. That's basic grade 9 biology.

If in my garden a watermellon and a cucumber by accident cross pollinate and I get big useless watercuks, they are not GM. They are a hybrid.

GM is actually adding something to the genetic makeup of the species. Something that could not happen in nature by any kind of cross breeding or selective breeding.
Like adding pesticides to the genes.
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:11 PM
 
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Like adding pesticides to the genes.
That dismantle other genes.

NIH will get no funding for this kind of research.
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