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Old 10-05-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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That old saying ignorance is bliss, is true. We all know homosexuals have always been in the military. But it was always kept down as to not cause rifts and discomfort inside the fighting unit.

There is a reason why men and women don't share showers and sleeping quarters.

Now that everything is out now, out of respect for those soldiers that don't like this, should there be separate quarters?

A female soldier would not like to be undressed around people who are sexually attracted to them.

Homosexual males are attracted to men....why wouldn't this same logic apply??

Very fair concern. It's occurred to me imagining a command trying to solve it. I think fraternization rules and the respect gays have always afforded hetero's should be the answer. No means no for females, and it also means no for hetero men who do not care for unwanted romantic intentions pointed at themselves. Maintaining personal discipline among gays regarding this issue isn't optional.

Beyond that men have been showering with one another, and women as well, far longer than these issues came to the front. Somehow common decency prevailed 99% of the time. Gays requesting special berthing-- I'd flag them in my mind as less than fit for service. Same with homophobes allowing paranoia to take hold of their own conduct.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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I understand where you are coming from, when you are in a war, living in hell whole, working 13 hours a day, you are lucky to even get a shower, and you have no time for dicking around. But that is not the entirety of military life, now is it?
The point is if we didn't give a crap about this issue in the most stressful, close-quarters scenario possible, then it really doesn't matter when troops are back in garrison. This may come as a shock, but military members are professional, mature adults who are capable of working and living with others who aren't cookie-cutter images of themselves. We really don't need all this patronizing on our behalf.

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Old 10-05-2011, 04:48 PM
 
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And how do you determine who is straight and who is gay?
We modify the "don't ask, don't tell" thing to "ask and tell".
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:54 PM
 
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We modify the "don't ask, don't tell" thing to "ask and tell".
And since many gays will deny it, I'm not sure that would prove too accurate.

A plethysmograph would be a more accurate method.
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Old 10-05-2011, 06:00 PM
 
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Soldiers should also be separated by loyalties as well, such as sports' teams.
When in the Army the guy in the next bunk was a big Ford fan, I preferred Chevies. I couldn't stand to listen to his boasting every night that a Ford can beat a Chevy in the quarter mile. Three bunks away was an extroverted Mopar fan. They argued constantly. All this was too much to for me hear every night. Maybe soldiers should also be separated by which type of cars they like?
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Old 10-05-2011, 07:11 PM
 
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Who are you kidding, the military is full of closet cases. The Marines alone is probably 50% gays!
Just another Homosexual fantasy LOL or do you have proof?
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:20 PM
 
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Just another Homosexual fantasy LOL or do you have proof?
Well, let's see. Science has shown that homophobic men are more likely to be gay. The Marines is the most homophobic of the military branches.

Seems like a logical deduction.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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No, they shouldn't. If military men can't handle sharing quarters with gay men, then they can't handle being shot at or killing people and need to be discharged.

People should not make idiotic statements just to try to prove a point.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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Gays aren't just flagrantly announcing their gayness and trying to rape people because DADT was repealed. Get a grip. I've been in for 7 years and have served with multiple gay people.
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Old 10-05-2011, 09:55 PM
 
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I think this thread should be revived on Veteran's Day. That's in November, not too far away.
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