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You know, when you work as an engineer for a while, you start to get a bit of a "feel" for your specialist subject. I mean, in addition to having a detailed knowledge of the maths and procedures underlying your job.
Now a glance at the Bureau of Labour Statistics tell us that there are 278 000 Civil Engineers, 238 000 Mechanical Engineers, 24 000 Materials Engineers, 140 000 architects and 71 000 Aerospace Enginners working in the USA today.
In addition, there are a number of engineers whose specialization involves some relevant knowledge of the fundamentals, such as chemical engineers, safety, mining, and petroleum, totalling about 85 000 people. So that is over three-quarters of a million people with relevant speciality knowledge on the subject, and over 800 000 if we include those with knowledge and experience relevant to the issue.
And I don't really see a lot of "Hey, that doesn't sound right!" reactions. No big debates in the mess hall, no impromptu simulations run after hours. No debates in the letters pages of the professional journals. Every university in the country, there doesn't seem to be a lot of people finding it out of place. Lecturers, students, postgrads, many of whom would join a protest against the government if their breakfast bananas were too curved.
In fact, it seems like the consensus is overwhelmingly "Yeah, sounds about right."
And we have not touched on how every other country seems to feel the same thing. Those guys in Singapore, Dubai, Malaysia etc who build the worlds tallest buildings? They seem to find it reasonable. Those countries that would love to see the US government go down in scandal? Not touching this stuff.
So what is it? A conspiracy involving up towards a million Americans, involving the cover up of thosands of counts of murder. With said conspiracy unable to silence the few brave fruitbats, who with no background knowledge or relevant experience has seen the truth?
Or just that said near million people have failed to to see through a deception in their speciality so simple that it is claimed people with no knowledge whatsoever could spot it? You think either sounds probable?
Most mechanical engineers in the world, particularly the Germans, don't know the difference between parallelity and disparate pressures.
And I don't really see a lot of "Hey, that doesn't sound right!" reactions.
Then you aren't paying much attention. Pilots, Architects, Engineers, Fire Fighters, Physicists, Military Officers, former Intelligence Officers and Officials .... CIA, FBI, MI5-MI6, German Intelligence, British MP's, ... you cannot throw a rock without hitting someone who has deep questions about what really happened on 911.
These are just for starters .... so enough of the baloney about no one is saying it doesn't make sense.
What makes no sense is the senselessness of believing fairytales and fantasies about magic passports and coincidental military exercises and magic aluminum planes that can slice through structural steel and concrete as if it were paper mache, all while traveling at speeds impossible to achieve at sea level which would require 6 times the thrust capability of the engine capabilities powering them ... and how hijacked planes can roam the skies of heavy traffic corridors of the east coast for an hour and a half before someone thought that they ought to take some action ... or how jumbo jets disappear into 16 ft wide holes and be vaporized, leaving only small remnants of their 100 tons of mass ....
See, I take this sort of stuff seriously. Here's why; About a week ago I was late for work for the first time in years. In the early morning darkness a car had suddenly stopped in front of me as I was driving along and I could not stop in time to avoid a minor collision. The other driver was allegedly avoiding a squirrel that had supposedly dashed out on the road. The whole ordeal annoyed me since I like to be punctual. I told the other driver that I was running late for work and saw no reason to call the police. I said that all we needed to do for the time being was to exchange information. He seemed happy to go along with my suggestion. In fact, on reflection, perhaps a little too happy. Anyway, I was six minutes late for work.
On my way home from work on that very day I passed the spot on the road where the accident had occurred about nine hours earlier. I noticed that there were some leaves on the road surface. I recalled that immediately after the accident the section of road surface had been wet, yet there had been no percipitation in over a day. Furthermore, there were leaves scattered on the roadway but in the daylight I could see that there were no trees in any direction for several hundred yards. I surmized that wet leaves on a wet road surface will extend by almost 50% the necessary stopping distance of an automobile. Also, with no trees in the area, the likelihood of a squirrel being on the roadway were small. Also, squirrels are generally much less active in the dark.
Now highly suspicious, I called the other motorist and informed him that I would like to see the damages and pay for the repairs myself without my insurance company getting involved. He told me that his 1984 Chevy Cavalier had apparently received only a minor dent on what was already a scratched and dented bumper, and that there was no need for any payment. Naturally the whole scenario made me even more suspicious.
A day later I checked around at my workplace and discovered that with that day of tardiness I was no longer the employee with the longest stretch of consecutive days without being late. I did some additional detective work and I discovered that the employee who took my place with the longest tenure without tardiness has a son who until a year ago owned a Chevy Cavalier, though the year of the car is unknown. Also, that same fellow employee has a cousin who once did safety testing for new cars while working for Consumer Reports. So the cousin would likely know the effects of a wet road surface/leaves combination when pertaining to a vehicle's stopping distance.
As of yet I have taken no action concerning my findings. I have thought about going to the police, however I am concerned that the police might be part of the opposition's scheme. Regardless, I know enough now to understand the serious nature of what many call "conspiracy theories".
This is actually what we call "a tiny number of people" Or if we are refering to only the people with relevant specialist knowledge, a "vanishingly small number"
I mean, I'm sure its interesting to live in a world where all the people with experience and knowledge of the basic physics are wrong, and a small band of people with no knowledge whatsoever of the subject can see through it. It must make you feel very special and important.
This is actually what we call "a tiny number of people" Or if we are refering to only the people with relevant specialist knowledge, a "vanishingly small number"
I mean, I'm sure its interesting to live in a world where all the people with experience and knowledge of the basic physics are wrong, and a small band of people with no knowledge whatsoever of the subject can see through it. It must make you feel very special and important.
But the rest of us live in the real world.
and they are just a long lists of an appeal to false authority. If you look at the "lists" on those sites, you'd find that 99% of them are not educated in the areas of scientific study to even make a qualified opinion on the subject of 9/11
Yes, a Sanitation Engineer has enough experience with building construction to understand why the towers collapsed.
That's like saying my plumber is qualified to give his opinion on open heart surgery.
See, I take this sort of stuff seriously. Here's why; About a week ago I was late for work for the first time in years. In the early morning darkness a car had suddenly stopped in front of me as I was driving along and I could not stop in time to avoid a minor collision. The other driver was allegedly avoiding a squirrel that had supposedly dashed out on the road. The whole ordeal annoyed me since I like to be punctual. I told the other driver that I was running late for work and saw no reason to call the police. I said that all we needed to do for the time being was to exchange information. He seemed happy to go along with my suggestion. In fact, on reflection, perhaps a little too happy. Anyway, I was six minutes late for work.
On my way home from work on that very day I passed the spot on the road where the accident had occurred about nine hours earlier. I noticed that there were some leaves on the road surface. I recalled that immediately after the accident the section of road surface had been wet, yet there had been no percipitation in over a day. Furthermore, there were leaves scattered on the roadway but in the daylight I could see that there were no trees in any direction for several hundred yards. I surmized that wet leaves on a wet road surface will extend by almost 50% the necessary stopping distance of an automobile. Also, with no trees in the area, the likelihood of a squirrel being on the roadway were small. Also, squirrels are generally much less active in the dark.
Now highly suspicious, I called the other motorist and informed him that I would like to see the damages and pay for the repairs myself without my insurance company getting involved. He told me that his 1984 Chevy Cavalier had apparently received only a minor dent on what was already a scratched and dented bumper, and that there was no need for any payment. Naturally the whole scenario made me even more suspicious.
A day later I checked around at my workplace and discovered that with that day of tardiness I was no longer the employee with the longest stretch of consecutive days without being late. I did some additional detective work and I discovered that the employee who took my place with the longest tenure without tardiness has a son who until a year ago owned a Chevy Cavalier, though the year of the car is unknown. Also, that same fellow employee has a cousin who once did safety testing for new cars while working for Consumer Reports. So the cousin would likely know the effects of a wet road surface/leaves combination when pertaining to a vehicle's stopping distance.
As of yet I have taken no action concerning my findings. I have thought about going to the police, however I am concerned that the police might be part of the opposition's scheme. Regardless, I know enough now to understand the serious nature of what many call "conspiracy theories".
You can't be serious with this kind of thinking, right?
You can't be serious with this kind of thinking, right?
You understand what being Paranoid is right?
Yeah, you can't fool me. Okay, which guy are you, the person who abruptly stopped in front of me, causing the minor accident, or the co-worker who was trying to surpass my workplace record for consecutive days without tardiness?
I'd wait here for an answer but I'm do at the swearing in ceremony of Barack Obama (not to be confused with the look-alike fake Obama in the White House) as president of the Foil Hat Alliance. Location; Top Secret.
I regret that NYC did not empanel a Grand Jury to hear evidence in this monstrous crime. This was a criminal event and not a formal act of war. The fact the Bush administration used it as an illegal attack on a country that was not involved was another crime. The fact that our ally Saudi Arabia's intelligence service did not know about this criminal conspiracy is another question.
As far as claiming our intelligence services had put together a plan this complex is an absurdity because they have never shown that much competence.
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