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Old 10-10-2011, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Originally Posted by Phantasy Tokoro View Post
This, somewhat.

The other part of it is, in my mind, is saftey issues.

The bus driver has to drive. If there is a screaming baby distracting him from his job, he has to either A: Pull over while the baby stops screaming, or B: Remove the problem.

He chose B.

And I don't see a thing wrong with it.
Exept that according to the second linked article, what the driver did was in violation of company policy. Instead of following company policy, she kicked out a mother and baby after dark onto the street. Read the second linked article for the company policy she violated.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Exept that according to the second linked article, what the driver did was in violation of company policy. Instead of following company policy, she kicked out a mother and baby after dark onto the street. Read the second linked article for the company policy she violated.
It's a company policy that's wrong in my opinion.
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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It's a company policy that's wrong in my opinion.
It's their company, their policy. Below is another link on this topic and a quote on the company's policy.

Bus driver kicks off woman with crying baby; passengers leave too - latimes.com
TriMet officials said this week they have put the bus driver, a 10-year veteran who has not been identified, on paid leave pending an investigation.
They emphasized that it isn't the district's policy to eject crying children or anyone else from "vulnerable" populations; rather, they say, a driver with safety concerns is advised to pull over to the side of the road and call for help (a tactic many parents would no doubt have tried long ago if it actually worked.)
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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It's their company, their policy.
That's nice.

I can still disagree with it.

Being that it is the company's policy, the suspension is not wrong, but I do still agree personally with the bus driver's actions.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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I'm not completely sure what the REAL story is since everyone has their own account, but here are some links and I'll let you all decide:

Rider says TriMet bus driver bounced mom and crying baby | OregonLive.com

Story of baby that was kicked off TriMet bus goes viral, but some support driver's actions (poll) | OregonLive.com

Crying Baby Gets Mom Kicked Off Public Bus - Parenting.com

Basically, the baby is crying and the mother is unable to quiet the child. It seems she was doing everything possible to try to soothe the baby. The bus driver apparently could not handle the crying and told the mother over the loudspeaker that she needed to stop the baby from screaming. Obviously that is easier said than done, and the driver then pulled over and said something to the mother and the mother got off the bus with the child. The passengers also all disembarked. One reportedly told the bus driver that it was wrong to kick the mother and child off the bus and the bus driver's response was that that person could also get off the bus if he/she didn't like it. Complaints were filed and the bus driver is on paid leave (probably a union thing).

If I were the mother, I would sue. As a new mother, I know babies can get quite frustrating when they don't stop crying, but it's not like the woman had any control over this since she was trying her hardest to get the baby to stop. But a baby crying for a little while should not be that much of a disturbance to a bus driver, perhaps the driver should not even have that job to begin with if she has a low tolerance for noise. It was probably hugely embarrassing to the mother to not be able to comfort her baby in public. It makes a mother feel horrible when she can't soothe her baby so the added embarrassment of the bus driver yelling at her over the loudspeaker and subsequently coming to talk to her (whether or not she actually kicked them off the bus is up for debate) could have actually done some psychological damage. Then she was stuck at wherever she was let off the bus to try to get home in the dark with the baby, and if something had happened, that opens up the bus system for liability.

I think the bus driver should be fired for being intolerant, insensitive and for not taking appropriate action to ensure the bus kept moving (to take the other passengers into consideration). It says in the article that she called in for a supervisor but was denied. However, one should not need a supervisor for this situation to begin with, but even if she was totally flipping out and could not keep her wits about her, she should have insisted on a replacement driver meeting her at a later stop to switch. Besides, how long are people even on buses? 45 minutes tops? Sure, a crying baby is not a pleasant sound to hear but the other passengers even stated that the baby was not that loud, so how could it be that it disturbed the driver so much that she had to refuse to move the bus and/or kick the woman/baby off?

When you take into consideration that these buses are subsidized with taxpayer money, it is even more maddening that something like this could happen and then the driver would remain on the payroll. If the mother does sue, the local taxpayers are paying for that kind of behavior from the driver.

Thoughts?
Good. Living in the new world Amerika we adults need to get to our jobs. Its survival of the fittest get used to it. dead babies? whatever everyones gotta get to work on time.

On LIRR (train to NYC for those in rural areas) i saw a man have a heart attack....6 people stepped over him to get their limo ride home.

This is what u RWNJ's want...enjoy...I saw it in NYC in early 90's...you will not like the new world order, and its here now Bcs you choose to elect puppets of multinationational corporations.

btw OP u cant sue a municipality its near impossible due to sovereignty law.

I guess you never saw your father die from negligence in a nursing home. Law in a state sponsored program uses Potters Field to bury their dead. WELCOME TO THE BRAVE NEW WORLD. read the book sometime.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Definitely. This would be a nightmare for the bus driver and the bus company if it gets in front of a jury. The bus company is already distancing itself from the driver and the driver's actions.
Judges dont have time for this crap- they are 80 and want to get home and play golf. Unless ur Trump and have perfect $$$ net worth no one cares about wrongful death. learn the law, ur in for a rude awakening.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:24 PM
 
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If you can't drive a bus full of people over the sound of a crying baby, you need to find a new job.
Ever actually driven a city bus? I have.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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So even though NO other person on the bus had an issue with it, the driver should be able to kick the woman off? Obviously the child was not making that much of a fuss because NO one else had an issue with it. If this driver can't take some distraction while driving then perhaps this person needs a new career. And FYI she has grounds to sue for anything, and chances are will get it because this bus company will rather pay than deal with the already negative publicity they are receiving.
There is no proof that NO other person had a problem with it. AGAIN, not everyone got off of that bus. It was "several" people according to ONE person. Did they interview everyone who was on that bus? Then you do not know that NO OTHER person had a problem with it.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Try reading the links for yourself
I did read the links, perhaps you didn't.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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One, someone here needs to check the current time of sunset. It's well before 8 pm now. Second, by forcing the mother and 1 1/2 year old baby off the bus, she put them in a dangerous situation. This incident should result in her getting fired and the rest of you should examine your humanity towards your fellow man because it is seriously lacking.
I used to live in WA state. It did not get dark until fricken 9pm or sometimes, (in summer of course), 10pm. Sorry, 8pm is NOT the middle of the fricken night.
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