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Old 10-11-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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He's pretty rich, I know that much.

Al Sharpton Net Worth | Celebrity Net Worth

Sounds like a dirty Capitalist if you ask me.
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Sharpton’s supporters praise “his ability and willingness to defy the power structure that is seen as the cause of their suffering” and consider him “a man who is willing to tell it like it is”. Born in the Brownsville neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York, he became a licensed and ordained Pentecostal minister by Bishop F.D. Washington at the age of nine.
Good grief.

At a $5 million net worth, Al Sharpton is a poverty pimp. Simple-minded liberals continue to enrich him while ignoring the fact that he hoards the wealth he's gained by exploiting the poor.

Poverty Pimp poem:
Thomas Sowell
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:44 AM
 
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what about new money that comes off the printing press? where should it go?
Home heating? May as well burn it for the amount the FED has devalued our fiat currency.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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From that link...Good grief.

At a $5 million net worth, Al Sharpton is a poverty pimp. Simple-minded liberals continue to enrich him while ignoring the fact that he hoards the wealth he's gained by exploiting the poor.

Poverty Pimp poem:
Thomas Sowell
LOL! Poverty pimp, perfect descriptor.

Indeed. The useful idiots clammor around Sharpton, Pelosi, Michael Moore, post of Facebook (Zuckerburg the Billionaire), Russell Simmons (worth over 1/3rd $Billion).

The communists are if nothing, hypocrit elitists. The useful idiots don't understand that they are aiding in the complete demise of what is left of the middle class.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:48 AM
 
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Bill Clinton signed it, and Obama is busy trying to expand it.
Yep.

Obama is currently pushing hard for the "NAFTA of the Pacific."
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In a major victory for U.S.-based multinational corporations, President Barack Obama has submitted controversial and long-pending "free-trade" agreements (FTAs) between the U.S. and South Korea, Colombia, and Panama for rapid approval by Congress.
U.S.: Long-Stalled Trade Accords Move Forward - IPS ipsnews.net

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In fact the signing of NAFTA is Bill Clinton's shining moment.
Sadly, yes.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Bob,

So, your only answer to everything I said above is to go right back to the corporations who have already decided not to do what you're asking? I gave you a goodie bag of liberal ideas to meet your goal and you ignored them. Is this really about making changes or about being anti-corporation?

Companies have already made their decision not to follow your path, so the point is moot. If your goals were profitable, they would have already done it. Since they aren't, what alternatives do you suggest in meeting your goal of redistribution?



You've answered your question in your previous post I quoted above. Companies do not hire people if there is no demand. The first priority of a company is to make a profit. Of course the people at the top are going to take that profit for themselves through bonuses, stock options, etc. Why else would they work hard to create a profitable company?

Creating jobs is only a means to the end of profit. If companies could robotize or computerize every job, they would do it in a heartbeat. Businesses don't create jobs as a "social responsibility program". Why do you think they continue to "invest" in citizens of foreign nations with outsourcing/offshoring, and "invest" in illegal alien jobs here at home? Profit is their main motive, jobs are a side benefit the workers reap. The sooner Americans realize this, the better.
Being a bit less wordy, suffice to say, we disagree. I do agree with your assessment that the Corp World has forgone a social sense in favor of the profit supreme. But, we are seeing the results of that short sighted management philosophy. Profits are soaring, but the long term demand is shrinking. Where will that lead?
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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Bob,

Creating jobs is only a means to the end of profit. If companies could robotize or computerize every job, they would do it in a heartbeat. Businesses don't create jobs as a "social responsibility program". Why do you think they continue to "invest" in citizens of foreign nations with outsourcing/offshoring, and "invest" in illegal alien jobs here at home? Profit is their main motive, jobs are a side benefit the workers reap. The sooner Americans realize this, the better.
And what happens when the entire US economy is automated in 100 years? Say goodbye to freedom and liberty. Say good bye to any semblance of a just and moral society in which free people pursue happiness, life, and liberty. It will be replaced by a 21st century form of serfdom and fedualism. You my friend fail to understand the entire premise on which this country the United States of America was founded upon. FREEDOM! This country was not founded on capitalism.....it was founded on THE CONSTITUTION! Capitalism just happens to be the economic system we chose to adopt and live under because when it is run properly leads to the greatest amount of freedom and prosperity. When we have corporations who's only motive is profit and they will do anything, go anywhere, and support anyone to garner that profit you can kiss your country goodbye. Capitalism and a free market does not have to exist for the sole purpose of seeking year over year profits. That is a completely unsustainable ideal and will eventually bankrupt the human race and the US economy.

There is nothing wrong with profits............but what we have today is an oppressive class monopoly that exists in order to maintain large profits for themselves. Capitalism as it is being practiced today is not even functioning in the manner intended by its own ideological developers. Adam Smith was not a man who intended to develop a system whereby a small number of people would own everything and control everyone's lives and receive undo benefits from the right of property ownership. His vision was one in which capitalism would lead to WIDESPREAD PROPERTY OWNERSHIP by which EVERYONE would share in the fruits of their labor and socially created value.

You're just another brainwashed American who fails to understand the basic principles upon which his country was founded and the vision the most brilliant men in the history of our the last 300 years had. I suggest you go pick up Wealth of Nations and read it again. Corporatism is not the same as capitalism regardless of profits.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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Being a bit less wordy, suffice to say, we disagree. I do agree with your assessment that the Corp World has forgone a social sense in favor of the profit supreme. But, we are seeing the results of that short sighted management philosophy. Profits are soaring, but the long term demand is shrinking. Where will that lead?

A social sense? HAHA! See my my recent post genius. The corporate world is ANTI CAPITALIST at its very core! Again you would do well to read up on what capitalism really is and what it means.

And profits aren't soaring...........it's all DEBT based. Corporate profits nowadays are numbers on a computer screen, derivatives, mortgage backed securities, bonds, etc. Most corporations are carrying loads of debt even though they are "profitbale". It's all a shell game and this is exactly why the powers that be can't let it collapse because as the house of cards that it is.....if it were to collapse it would take with it our entire modern civilization.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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Al Sharpton only fights for his own pockets. Socialism and communism are rackets for those who are more comfortable dealing with ignorant and lazy people than cunning sharks who thrive in "capitalism."
Sharpton wants that wealth so he will be the one who distributes it, keeping 80% for himself and his crew and the rest to the constituency. That's "equality", getting screwed equally by both left and right wing thuggery.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:00 AM
 
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Being a bit less wordy, suffice to say, we disagree. I do agree with your assessment that the Corp World has forgone a social sense in favor of the profit supreme. But, we are seeing the results of that short sighted management philosophy. Profits are soaring, but the long term demand is shrinking. Where will that lead?
Bob,

So you don't agree with all the liberal solutions I gave you? Once again, I don't see how protesting companies will change anything. Your change will come through government policies.

I didn't say the companies' management philosophy was good, or that it would lead to a good place. I am saying that protesting them will not lead to any changes, protesting your government and electing politicians that agree is where you should focus on your efforts.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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And what happens when the entire US economy is automated in 100 years? Say goodbye to freedom and liberty. Say good bye to any semblance of a just and moral society in which free people pursue happiness, life, and liberty.
That's already gone. Been gone a LONG time. Too many "free" people pursue handouts that are forcibly taken from the fruits of others' labors. DO NOT misunderstand the fact that NEITHER party is "free" under those circumstances.
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