Student loan proposal for OWS and the un(der)employed (ethic, high school)

[Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

so you think the TAXPAYER should pay for ALL higher education.

yes

....what does the TAXPAYER get out of it

More highly educated future taxpayers.

does that mean for the CAREER STUDENTS TOO..you know the ones who never work, but slack at school for YEARS on end

I don't know anyone who retired as a lifelong student.

I know many, many who have a degree in xx..yet work in yy

I don't care.

[kaimuki]

Damn those Commie college students and recent graduates. They want everything for free, even their drugs. They're just lazy and stupid. Who cares that they cannot afford a college education that can cost well over 100K. Those lazy Commies!

[Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

dent is actually deBT...I fat fingered the keypad

BASIC eduacation should be free, or low cost

HIGHER education leading to HIGHER CAREERS is a pay thing..always has..and should be

So you don't think we should start charging tuition at public elementary schools? Why not?

Those little socialist bastards are getting a free ride off taxpayer money. If I didn't have to pay property taxes, I could've bought a jet ski. That would've created jobs down at the jet ski factory.

Elementary schools are killing this economy.

[freemkt]

Originally Posted by softblueyz

How about the government go and collect the billions of dollars in student loans that hasn't been repaid by those who graduated, defaulted and have been working long enough to have repaid it?

The government IS collecting money from those people AND making millions of dollars in "fees" on top of it.

The government takes the tax refunds, stimulus checks, and even Social Security these people get, and take 20 percent off the top as a fee.

At one time I was temporarily disabled, living on $800 a month, and the Department of Education was taking $150 a month, of which $30 was their fee for the privilege. This meant only $120 was going toward paying off the loan, instead of the $150 they were taking.

If you're making minimum wage, how long is "long enough" to have repaid a student loan?

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus

So you don't think we should charge kids tuition to attend elementary school? Why not?

I said low cost

and BASIC education...enough to be VIABLE adults is paid for by my PROPERTY TAX for that LOCAL school..and I think it shoud be based on how many )if any) kids you have in the system...so yes I would agree with a tuition (kind of like private school) IN PLACE of my property taxes



college is not a right.nor should it be free

you want college..work for it.. just like most people...

not everything needs to be handed to you as an entitlement

[stick2dascript]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

its only free to LEACHES and PARASITES...someone still has to ;pay


unreasonably stiff???
whats stiff about it...here is a loan for xx amount of dollars..we charge a 10% interest fee..pay it back AS FAST AS YOU CAN to avoid compounding interest

whats so hard about PAYING YOUR DEBTS....Oh I know liberals dont care about debts, as long as SOMEONE ELSE pays it for them

Not many decent paying jobs left, like I said earlier in real life if I owe 80 grand on loans I'm not working for 8 dollars per hour, if my field is totally outsourced to India I'm not going back to slap on another 80k on another field.

In the conservatives world corporations run free to rape the consumer and its the consumer who's held accountable, never the business and that typical right wing logic.

It's no jobs, what should we do? We need a more educated workforce and tougher regulations on outsourcing.

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[Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

I said low cost

How do you define "low" ?

and BASIC education...enough to be VIABLE adults

I think a Bachelor's degree from a 4 year school is a basic education that should be paid for by the government & taxpayers.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by freemkt

If you're making minimum wage, how long is "long enough" to have repaid a student loan?

why would anyone take an UNSKILLED min wage job

and let's see...I worked full time at white castle andwas able to get my associates going full time to school..paid for with MY money

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus

How do you define "low" ?



I think a Bachelor's degree from a 4 year school is a basic education that should be paid for by the government.

why???

why should the government pay for YOU

why should the government pay for something ABOVE BASIC..a 4yr degree is well above basic...certainly above any blue-collar requirements


why should your EDUCATION NOT BE YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY...why should anyone be forced to pay for you

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by cyclone8570

So what about the people who actually pay for college out of their own pocket-- do you think they should get a dollar for dollar deduction as well?

Yes. Well, mummy and dadsy would, anyway, since I'd venture MOST students who pay "out of pocket" without loans (not all, of course, especially those doing two years at CC) are having parents foot the bill.

Originally Posted by cyclone8570

Oh wait-- that already exists, the college education deduction (has a max though).

Most students who take out loans would not be able to write off tuition payments, because they don't have enough income while in school to make deductions worthwhile. Therefore, the deduction cannot be taken when it would be most beneficial.