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Old 10-20-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Shelters, family, friends. Do you disagree sleeping on the street harms the individual and society?
Yes, I disagree that the right to protest hurts society. Staying home and ignoring the coup by Wall Street on our Govt will harm our society far more than sleeping out on the street.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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That is where the left gets lost. Wealthy people aren't chosen, they are made. And they are made, for the most part, by themselves. The left really believes success is stolen, not earned.
That's were the right gets lost. Wealth isn't made in a vacuum. It takes workers to produce goods, the wealth is created by the workers, but the workers don't get rich for their work, if they are lucky they are well taken care of and are content with the situation(<-Not the word I'm looking for but it will have to do), but too often they are taken advantage of. Then there are those who make their money off the markets that the producers create, and there is ample evidence that they have been making money through fraudulent means, yes, stealing.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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That's were the right gets lost. Wealth isn't made in a vacuum. It takes workers to produce goods, the wealth is created by the workers, but the workers don't get rich for their work, if they are lucky they are well taken care of and are content with the situation(<-Not the word I'm looking for but it will have to do), but too often they are taken advantage of. Then there are those who make their money off the markets that the producers create, and there is ample evidence that they have been making money through fraudulent means, yes, stealing.
Wealth is created by producing goods or services people want. Wealth isn't created by workers. Workers are compensated for their labor. Why should workers get rich for their labor? They don't take the risk, the job creator does.

No one is taken advantage of. If you don't think you are fairly compensated, find another job, or better yet, start your own business!

Making money in the market isn't illegal.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Yes, I disagree that the right to protest hurts society. Staying home and ignoring the coup by Wall Street on our Govt will harm our society far more than sleeping out on the street.
Trrific job of answering a question not asked! And of course there is no Wall Street coup. But there is a government take over by unions!
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Wealth is created by producing goods or services people want. Wealth isn't created by workers. Workers are compensated for their labor. Why should workers get rich for their labor? They don't take the risk, the job creator does.

No one is taken advantage of. If you don't think you are fairly compensated, find another job, or better yet, start your own business!

Making money in the market isn't illegal.
Wrong, 70% of wealth is inherited,
4% is obtained by way of marriage, and majority of the rest of it is made thru crime.
The percentage of people who become wealthy due to starting their own business, being a performer, sports, etc, are so minimal they are not even a factor. The game is fixed.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...2DYCWn2PFni13Q
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Shush. You will give away the game and they won't like you. The reason most people are not wealthy is they were not smart enough to chose the right parents.
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:05 PM
 
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They don't call these ows slackers the Flea Party for nothing.
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Wrong, 70% of wealth is inherited,
4% is obtained by way of marriage, and majority of the rest of it is made thru crime.
The percentage of people who become wealthy due to starting their own business, being a performer, sports, etc, are so minimal they are not even a factor. The game is fixed.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...2DYCWn2PFni13Q
LOL, far be it from me to impugn such a well respected source but that is complete BS!
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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LOL, far be it from me to impugn such a well respected source but that is complete BS!
Really? I guess that explains why so many of our elite families have criminal backgrounds. The Kennedys’, the Bushes, The Roosevelt/Delano’s, just to name a few.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Trrific job of answering a question not asked!
Maybe I can answer the question for you: many homeless people don't have family or friends whom they can live with, and many avoid shelters which can be full of criminals and drug addicts, feeling safer on the street.
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