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Old 10-15-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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It may not be science but it references very good facts and ideas and I'd want children reading it at the appropriate age. You talk as if these ideas are bad which is astonishing to me. Are you visiting from the 12th century?

You oppose Fed involvement in Education, which to me is utter nonsense. This doesn't mean I approve everything it's currently doing, but I want educational standards to be set at the federal level, not by some local board hijacked by neocons, anti-education types, Christians pushing a religious agenda, liberals with a single dominating agenda, or others. We either teach the facts to everyone's child in equal measure, or burn the flag because there won't be much of a country left.

People like you who turn your back on public education do a tremendous disservice to your country. Just like those who oppose the government, you turn your back on it, ignore it, and thereby let it be all the things you despise. Conveniently forgotten is the power at your disposal to do something about it because it (government, public education, etc) is collectively OURS. When you turn your back on something all of us own and contribute to, you insult everyone else. You divide. You break apart. You destroy.

I will never understand how the supreme selfishness of conservative thinking escapes their attention.

And what the frick is so bad about social activism? Do you want your kids to just sit there like lumps and do nothing? You don't want them solving our problems because you don't want to inform them what they are? Please, keep your idiotic opinion of education to yourself because it exposes a big hole. Quick, we need a roll of yellow caution tape to keep everybody else from falling in.
I don't know which is more disturbing considering the fact that you identify yourself as a public school teacher - your incredible arrogance or the fact that you seem completely unaware of the huge political issues surrounding man made global warming. I guess they go hand in hand.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I haven't seen this type of social activism in my daughter's public school until this year. She's a sophomore in high school. In addition, she wants to go on to obtain her PhD in the biological sciences, specifically marine sciences. I, of course, encourage this. So, for her, her fundamental base classes in science, such as biology, are very important to her future successes.

This year, she has a very, very liberal Biology teacher. She knows he's very, very liberal because he's said so in class several times. Even though the state cirriculum has disection as part of the course, her teacher is refusing to teach any disection because he said that he doesn't want to be a part of "hurting" animals. Now he is affecting my daughter's fundamentals in science with his beliefs. This is not the place or the time for him to push his own political beliefs. How can such actions be defended? I believe they cannot. When people talk of the slippery slope of social activism in the schools, the aforementioned example is a prime example.
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:04 AM
 
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And the same people who believe this, are opposed to the evidence of global warming!
What evidence?
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Great idea, you don't want her mind corrupted by the likes of Plato, Darwin, Freud, Socrates, and Newton.
and just what makes you think that she isn't teaching her child all of these, as well as Shakespear, Hemmingway, Emerson and Thoreau? Most home school programs have specific curriculum. Obviously you have no idea what home education consists of, and you probably would also be shocked to learn that most home schooled children excel beyond their peers in the public schools when they advance to the university systems.
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:21 AM
 
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and just what makes you think that she isn't teaching her child all of these, as well as Shakespear, Hemmingway, Emerson and Thoreau? Most home school programs have specific curriculum. Obviously you have no idea what home education consists of, and you probably would also be shocked to learn that most home schooled children excel beyond their peers in the public schools when they advance to the university systems.
They refuse to believe that public school students are way behind the learning curve of the homeschooled student. To admit that would admit failure to their teaching agenda.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:43 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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They refuse to believe that public school students are way behind the learning curve of the homeschooled student. To admit that would admit failure to their teaching agenda.
You mean much like most homeschooled parents refuse to believe that some public school kids are actually pretty smart? They're normally too busy putting down those kids and calling them stupid (in so many words)to notice that. It's very off putting to those who don't homeschool.
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Old 10-16-2011, 06:22 AM
 
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If any of you have trouble with what is being taught in your local school, contact your local school board of trustees. Teachers do not write and approve textbooks. My state does have a role in the creation of some of the books. Books are selected and purchased by the state agency over public education. In Texas, that is a conservative group of folks.
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