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Your example does not reflect reality. Its not like politician do these things because they feel the corporations deserve them. They get all these benefits because they have supported their campaigns. It is a mutual relationship.
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Of course it's a mutually beneficial relationship. Who said it wasn't? I wasn't arguing the reasons why Obama handed out bailout cash with no strings attached to all his Wall Street buddies. We all know why. Remember Obama's own words, "We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends". And reward his friends he did as the biggest recipient of Wall Street cash in history.
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Of course, you've got no evidence. Btw, what you consider "conservative" is not what other people consider conservative. You are a neo-con...and probably proud of it as well.
No evidence of what? Why are you so ashamed to admit that your a liberal? Maybe because it's a failing ideology? And how do you know what I consider to be conservative? Are you a mind reader?
What makes you think I'm a neo-con? Do you even know what one is? I'm guessing you don't have a clue (again), or you would never consider me to be a supportier of a welfare state. You do realize that neo-cons support that, right?
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
Whose fault is that? Government shouldn't have been bailing out companies in the first place, people should have objected to that when it happened TWICE, but if I remember correctly, when the Tea Party was objecting to BOTH circumstances under Bush AND Obama, they were too busy attacking them and making gay references.
As for them paying executives too much, well... its a free country and this again falls back to the government stupidly handing them money. Wouldn't have been a problem if we kept government out of private business, but then... well... again, they weren't thinking about less government, now were they?
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They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
And again, whose fault is this? With demands for stupid "living wages", massive government regulation and taxes, and constant demands that the PRIVATE business should pay for peoples healthcare. Is it such a surprise they outsource labor that a drooling idiot can do? Maybe this group should have been again... objecting to government throwing its weight around and demanding people pay for others? Nah, government can get us free crap if we force it on people! Yay!!!
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They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
Again, lets think about that. They have power to influence the regulations on them because... wait for it... we allow government to get in bed with them and lo and behold, we again are blaming them rather than considering... this is governments fault. IF we greatly reduced the power of government, there would be no benefit of them catering to politicians and doing back alley deals. This again... is stupidity by the people thinking they can use government to push people around and then finding out, government could care less about the peons and will serve its own interests. Maybe focus on government? Nah... lets all point to the corporations and blame them for what was governments problem all along!
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They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
And government as purposely done the same kind of thing in its pursuit of power. Though.. hey... government good, corporations bad.. drool...
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They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
And government does the same or do we have to recount the history of government using the media and various campaigns to keep the morons dancing to their tune? Government good... more government... drool...
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They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
Welcome to government 101.
Hey, I have a great idea!!! Lets make government really powerful and have them control and dictate to everyone! Awesome!!! Amazing!!! as long as I get my handout!!! Make it happen!!!! /boggle
Sorry, but they are whiny little brats who lack responsibility for their own actions and want to blame everything on others. Sorry, they are a joke, they care nothing about liberty, they care only about pushing their silly ideal of a utopian society where anyone who has more than they do is a target for their theft and envy.
Companies do bad things, but these fools create the problems by continuing to run off to government feeding it more power. They get what they want and we will all be sitting in shackles.
No evidence of what? Why are you so ashamed to admit that your a liberal? Maybe because it's a failing ideology? And how do you know what I consider to be conservative? Are you a mind reader?
What makes you think I'm a neo-con? Do you even know what one is? I'm guessing you don't have a clue (again), or you would never consider me to be a supportier of a welfare state. You do realize that neo-cons support that, right?
To answer with your own words: I've read enough of your posts to know that you are a neo-con. You are not that important to me to support my claim with evidence. (Your own words)
Liberal in Germany has a complete different meaning than in the USA. Somehow, if one doesn't love the Bible and corporations is automatically a liberal. Americans on CD are not that smart when it comes to differentiating between ideologies. Hint: There are more than just two ideologies. I know its hard for you to imagine that the world is not only black and white.
No. I'm probably the only person on this forum that actually has a clue what a neo-Conservative really is.
Why did you quote me? I didn't say that about you. And btw, I know about Economics. You can spare your obnoxious arrogant "6th grade math". I ask simple-minded people stupid questions.
Whose fault is that? Government shouldn't have been bailing out companies in the first place, people should have objected to that when it happened TWICE, but if I remember correctly, when the Tea Party was objecting to BOTH circumstances under Bush AND Obama, they were too busy attacking them and making gay references.
BS. The Tea Partiers have called themselves Tea Baggers. This has been discussed to death.
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And again, whose fault is this? With demands for stupid "living wages", massive government regulation and taxes, and constant demands that the PRIVATE business should pay for peoples healthcare. Is it such a surprise they outsource labor that a drooling idiot can do? Maybe this group should have been again... objecting to government throwing its weight around and demanding people pay for others? Nah, government can get us free crap if we force it on people! Yay!!!
Has been happening in Germany for decades. Germany has a healthy middle working class.
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And government as purposely done the same kind of thing in its pursuit of power. Though.. hey... government good, corporations bad.. drool...
Who says that? I don't believe that the world is black and white. Unlike you, I don't blame just one side. That only works for simple-minded people.
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And government does the same or do we have to recount the history of government using the media and various campaigns to keep the morons dancing to their tune? Government good... more government... drool...
Somehow, if one doesn't love the Bible and corporations is automatically a liberal.
That's only what narrow-minded liberals think. Seems you've partaken of the koolaid.
There are plenty of fiscal conservatives that don't even get into the debate on religion, and are certainly VERY unhappy with Wall Street's Democrat-enabled looting of our country.
That's only what narrow-minded liberals think. Seems you've partaken of the koolaid.
There are plenty of fiscal conservatives that don't even get into the debate on religion, and are certainly VERY unhappy with Wall Street's Democrat-enabled looting of our country.
Nope. That is what people here call me because I am atheist and don't love corporations. They automatically label me a "liberal" which in Germany actually means something completely different. Mostly people who supported the Patriot Act and the Iraq war but suddenly hate the government. Too funny. But I was also called a liberal as well just because I do things like defending peaceful Muslims. Strange thing, didn't know that common sense has something to do with political ideology.
Might have much more to do with your refusal to recognize the actual problem - Obama doing his Wall Street puppetmasters' bidding.
What do Muslims have to do with Obama and Wall Street? Since I started here, people called me a socialist because I am not religious, don't hate Muslims and other things. The neo-cons on here can't deal with people who disagree with them but also would not be considered liberal.
There is more than just black and white when it comes to political ideologies.
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