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And what say you of the practice of allowing American schoolchildren
to opt out of saying the Pledge of Allegiance to our flag?
And by the way, you may have missed it in the article but this is a classroom of
high schoolers, not 5-yr-olds. HTH.
I never said the pledge beyond elementary school because the country deserves more than a forced demonstration of patriotism theater.
The point is, I'm not entirely sure how a bunch of high schoolers can be "indoctrinated" by words in a language they only have a cursory understanding of. Learning the way that other people honor their country (pledges, anthems, etc) is a fantastic way of understanding the culture and political systems of their countries. There's so much that can be said about American culture from our pledge and anthem, which is why students of English learn it in many other countries (including Mexico and Iceland).
Interesting....I wonder what I will find with regard to your stance on illegal immigration if I look around the forum. Will it be the typical "they only want a better life" and "your a racist if you oppose" liberal hogwash?
Knock yourself out. I've always had (along with most democrats) strong views against the illegal immigration issue. Historically if you look at it, it's always been the republicans, especially corporate shills like Bush and Perry that have been the most pro-illegal as it's good for their bottom dollars.
Students in a Texas public high school were made to stand up and recite the Mexican national anthem and Mexican pledge of allegiance as part of a Spanish class assignment -- the school district maintains there was nothing wrong with the lesson.
The students had to wear red, white and green, memorize the Mexican anthem and pledge and stand up and recite them in individually in front of the class.
Sophomore Brenda Brinsdon sat down and refused to participate, and caught it all on video:
I never said the pledge beyond elementary school because the country deserves more than a forced demonstration of patriotism theater.
The point is, I'm not entirely sure how a bunch of high schoolers can be "indoctrinated" by words in a language they only have a cursory understanding of. Learning the way that other people honor their country (pledges, anthems, etc) is a fantastic way of understanding the culture and political systems of their countries. There's so much that can be said about American culture from our pledge and anthem, which is why students of English learn it in many other countries (including Mexico and Iceland).
Poor excuse.
We can learn about other countries without being patriotic to them.
Knock yourself out. I've always had (along with most democrats) strong views against the illegal immigration issue. Historically if you look at it, it's always been the republicans, especially corporate shills like Bush and Perry that have been the most pro-illegal as it's good for their bottom dollars.
Hmmm and Ted Kennedy? Pelosi? Hillary wanted to give them drivers licenses, Reid? Obama?
One can argue both parties are pro illegal. Actions speak louder than words.
One can argue both parties are pro illegal. Actions speak louder than words.
Completely agree.
Each party has their own special interest in mind when it comes to illegals.
But so that this thread doesn't get moved or closed, to keep it from becoming all-about-illegals,
I still have a problem with the whole allegiance-to-another-country thing
and would encourage my kids to refuse participation as well.
Students in a Texas public high school were made to stand up and recite the Mexican national anthem and Mexican pledge of allegiance as part of a Spanish class assignment -- the school district maintains there was nothing wrong with the lesson.
The students had to wear red, white and green, memorize the Mexican anthem and pledge and stand up and recite them in individually in front of the class.
Sophomore Brenda Brinsdon sat down and refused to participate, and caught it all on video:
...because national politics is essential when studying any language, didn't you know? I'm sure they memorize all things related to the UK before English class starts. As if the only country on earth where they speak Spanish is in Mexico.
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