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Old 10-18-2011, 03:08 PM
 
Location: it depends
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How stupid do you have to be to choose not to do it? They are breaking it into pieces. First up, .5% on Millionaire Tax to pay for Teachers and 1st Responders. So, we'll see.
Both sides have underlying principles. On this one, I and the other residents of my town have all the firefighting and teaching we need and want. This is a local decision and has been paid for locally, as it should be.

If your town is short on teachers or firefighters, march on city hall.

There is no end of worthy objects that could be funded with a tiny tax here and a tiny tax there--but I don't want any money going out of my town because your town is so poorly run that it cannot pay its teachers or firefighters.

It is really too bad that the president has not led on the path that the Simpson Bowles Commission recommended. Instead of taking the garbage out of a gargantuan tax code, he wants to add a few pages here and a few pages there to carve out special treatment or punishment to this group or that group. How 'bout we try that old "equal treatment" idea that used to be so popular as a bedrock principle?
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Only two out of the entire senate on the dem side voted against it and can be considered DINOS. Also as he points out 63% of the american people support his bill, but no one on the right voted for it, proving beyond any doubt the GOP doesn't give a damn about job creation, balancing the budget, and most importantly, what the american people want.
Don't you know how he intends to get all the good parts of the bill passed? Oh yes he told some people today that he will get many parts done one at a time but maybe he will have some trouble with those parts that are intended only to create new bureaucracies created.

Now he has to figure out how to get all his people and the independents in the Senate to vote for those parts, one at a time. Of course, he will have to take some time off from campaigning to get this all done.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There were Democrats who voted against it too. Just shows how hyperpartisan he is.
Campaign fodder. Makes him look good and makes the Repubs the "evil guys". You think people read papers and follow politics beyond the bits and pieces they hear on the MSM ?

Spoke to one guy at work and he didn't even realize that the Dems were opposed to it. He didn't know that Reid had tabled it when it hit the Senate.
And he's as left as you can get...but only listens to the radio.

And this is a college educated white collar worker. You'd think he'd know better.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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There were Democrats who voted against it too. Just shows how hyperpartisan he is.

really? 2 democrats? give me a break. it wasn't these 2 that kept it from happening. He needed a super majority.
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Old 10-18-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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really? 2 democrats? give me a break. it wasn't these 2 that kept it from happening. He needed a super majority.
And he knew that he wasn't going to have one. He never intended for that piece of Pelosi to be passed. All he expected to get out of it was something to use against Republicans next fall. Do you think it will work?
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Old 10-18-2011, 05:54 PM
 
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And he knew that he wasn't going to have one. He never intended for that piece of Pelosi to be passed. All he expected to get out of it was something to use against Republicans next fall. Do you think it will work?
Exactly right. Everybody knew even before he came up with the actual bill that it was a ruse to turn the public against the Republicans. It's not meant to create jobs.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Only two out of the entire senate on the dem side voted against it and can be considered DINOS. Also as he points out 63% of the american people support his bill, but no one on the right voted for it, proving beyond any doubt the GOP doesn't give a damn about job creation, balancing the budget, and most importantly, what the american people want.
Come now its a little late for Obama to be concerned about what the majority of Americans want.
The majority did not want his healthcare bill when they shoved it down our throats.
The majority do not favor amnesty nor Obama's approach to immigration.
The majority did not favor involvment in Libya.
The majority did not favor his lawsuit against AZ.
Its way late for him to pretend to care what we the people want.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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There were Democrats who voted against it too. Just shows how hyperpartisan he is.
Let's see.....ONE...TWO.....that's how many Democrats were against it! .

Every Republican Senator was against it!
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:17 PM
 
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Who even listens to what Oblama says anymore? He's a lame duck and all that ever comes out of his mouth is hateful campaign rhetoric.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: outside of Deroit
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Imagine how hard it will be to run against a "do-nothing" Congress that continually does nothing, huh?


All you do is lie Bob. You are a waste of bandwidth.

Please get a clue.
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