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Old 10-22-2011, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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I don't suppose these kinds of protests attract the drug addicts, the mentally ill, and the non-confomists because they were the ones who, in childhood, not knowing what was wrong with the system, became problem children by fighting it in their own strange ways, thereby ending up as "losers"; mentally confused, lost, hopeless.


Not all the protestors are uneducated ragamuffins and not all of them are there for any good reason. It goes both ways. Pointing to the true losers in a group and saying that ALL of the group are losers is a cowardly way out.

The same thing happened in the 60s, and look what happened; the religious right took over, deregulation bloomed, and corporations took over, sending the middle class into oblivion. Maybe this is a legitimate protest, but also a setup.

If there's anything I've learned in my short life here, it is that things are never as they appear.

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Old 10-22-2011, 03:20 AM
 
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Old 10-22-2011, 03:26 AM
 
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As I stated in a previous thread....what % of the people control the money?

What % of the people control the message?

They claim that all of the voices have merit....what about the "get rid of all Jews" message?
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Old 10-22-2011, 03:48 AM
 
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The OWS has a good message, but camping out in tents does nothing. All it is is just a cultural movement.
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Old 10-22-2011, 03:51 AM
 
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I liked this in the article:

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Other organizers were more blunt. “If you don’t want to be part of this group, then you can just leave,” yelled a facilitator in a button-down shirt,
Seems they don't like it when their things are taken

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“They’ve taken my stuff,” he muttered. Lauren Digion, the sanitation group leader, broke in: “This isn’t your stuff. You got all this stuff from comfort [the working group]. It belongs to comfort."
Does this sound like a mini-country or what?

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In response to dissatisfaction with the consensus General Assembly, many facilitators have adopted a new “spokescouncil” model, which allows each working group to act independently without securing the will of the collective. “This streamlines it,” argued Zonkers. “The GA is unwieldy, cumbersome, and redundant."
Give 'em a couple more weeks and we'll see protesters protesting the protesters
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:28 AM
 
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They could take the protest on tour to Miami or San Diego where the climate is more hospitable to outdoor protests. Just charter a dozen busses or so.
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:47 AM
 
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At what point do these people become nothing more than squatters, taking over property that isn't theirs to begin with?
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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At what point do these people become nothing more than squatters, taking over property that isn't theirs to begin with?
That's really all they are now. What gets me is how the LAWS are selectively broken for this bunch of miscreants, just because the local officials and politicians like their message and share the same ideology.

We KNOW a TP "occupy" wouldn't get the same courtesy, don't we?
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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At what point do these people become nothing more than squatters, taking over property that isn't theirs to begin with?
They already are. But someone behind the scenes is allowing it to continue.
That's a private park and the owners were ready to eject them with the help of the NYPD and at the 11th hour the owners relented.

Me thinks some high level phone calls occurred to let them stay.
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:12 AM
 
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....." A man named Sage Roberts desperately rifled through the pile, looking for a sleeping bag. “They’ve taken my stuff,” he muttered. Lauren Digion, the sanitation group leader, broke in: “This isn’t your stuff. You got all this stuff from comfort [the working group]. It belongs to comfort.” .......

WTF, they've got a Commisar of "Comfort"?

".......As the communal sleeping bag argument between Lauren Digion and Sage Roberts threatened to get out of hand, a facilitator in a red hat walked by, brow furrowed. “Remember? You’re not allowed to do any more interviews,” he said to Digion. She nodded and went back to work.....

Sounds like they need a Commisar of "When to speak".

Sure, these are the 99% of America.
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