Birther brigade going after Rubio now (enemy, illegal, independence, v)

[DraggingCanoe]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Please, stop running away from the question.

Where in the Minor decision does the court ever call Virginia Minor a natural born citizen?

Spinning again..

Where does it say in Wong Kim Ark v The United States WKA was affirmed a citizen? It does not.

You spin Minor v Happersett and you spin WKA. It is getting old.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by DraggingCanoe

Spinning again..

Not at all.

Carefully and tenderly unmasking the bilious hypocrisy of one particular Birther in this forum. You want to joint the fun?

Originally Posted by DraggingCanoe

Where does it say in Wong Kim Ark v The United States WKA was affirmed a citizen? It does not.

"Upon the facts agreed in this case, the American citizenship which Wong Kim Ark acquired by birth within the United States has not been lost or taken away by anything happening since his birth."

Right there.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

More red herring, IC? My god man, but you will turn the ocean vermillion!!!

They are identical in these ways:

1) Citizenship at birth is automatic.

No. Try reading comprehension for a change :

"Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice"

US State Department Services Dual Nationality

"may" ...it's not a sure thing.

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

2) In order to access the benefits of the citizenship, you must document that you are a citizen.

No. There was never any requirement for British or U.K. citizens who automatically became such to document or register their citizenship.

[Grim Reader]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

More red herring, IC? My god man, but you will turn the ocean vermillion!!!

They are identical in these ways:

1) Citizenship at birth is automatic.

2) In order to access the benefits of the citizenship, you must document that you are a citizen.

Actually, citizenship at birth is not automatic in many nations. It can be inherited from the parents instead.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by Grim Reader

Actually, citizenship at birth is not automatic in many nations. It can be inherited from the parents instead.

That would also be automatic, just not jus soli.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

"may" ...it's not a sure thing.

It is also a red herring.

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

There was never any requirement for British or U.K. citizens who automatically became such to document or register their citizenship.

That is just cretinous.

Are you actually asserting that a total stranger can arrive at a British airport, declare they are a British citizen, and not have to document it?

Really?

[HistorianDude]

Come on IC. Where in the Minor ruling does it ever call Virginia Minor a natural born citizen?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Are you actually asserting that a total stranger can arrive at a British airport, declare they are a British citizen, and not have to document it?

Really?

Depends... If they want a British passport, no. But the same is true of U.S. citizens. They, too, must provide documentation to acquire a U.S. passport. Not all citizens want or need passports, however.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Come on IC. Where in the Minor ruling does it ever call Virginia Minor a natural born citizen?

Does she fit the criteria of the only SCOTUS definition of Constitutional NBC which is acknowledged by the Wong Kim Ark decision?

Yes.

[DraggingCanoe]

Lets clear up all the mud being spread around in this forum by the Obots.

In Minor v Happersett the unanimous court defined a natural born citizen as those who are born on US soil to citizen parents. The persons not born to citizen parents were characterized by the court as foreigners that might be citizens. These foreigners citizenship need to be resolved. Those born in the US to citizen parents nothing needs to be resolved.

There was no dissent in the Minor decision.