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No. The INS recognizes native born and natural born as two distinctly different kinds of citizenship:Interpretation 324.2
The INS recognizes that natural-born citizens are ALL citizens who acquire their citizenship at birth, but that some of those natural-born citizens aren't born within US borders. So native-born citizens are always natural-born citizens, but natural-born citizens aren't always native-born. Since every native-born citizen is natural-born, that means, again, that there are only two types of citizens, those who acquire their citizenship at birth (natural-born citizens), and those who acquire their citizenship via naturalization.
I could point out, for instance, that there are Mexican-origin naturalized citizens, and Brazilian-origin naturalized citizens, but there is no distinction being made, as both are naturalized citizens. The only difference is where they were born.
In that same sense, there are native-born natural-born citizens, and there are non-native-born natural-born citizens. But there is no distinction being made, as both are natural-born citizens. The only difference is where they were born.
Birthright citizens. Naturalized citizens. That's it. The only two kinds of American citizens.
Yes, President Obama had a claim of British citizenship via his father.
It wasn't just a claim. He was automatically a British citizen at birth by descent.
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And he had a claim of American citizenship via his mother, and his birth in Hawaii, which placed him under the jurisdiction of American authorities.
Not according to the definition given on record by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Trumbull. Only those not owing allegiance to anybody else were U.S. citizens by birth in the U.S. And cite the law stating mothers confer citizenship status to their U.S. born children.
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The British government recognizes that children born in foreign countries may be citizens of the countries they are born in, and also be able to claim British citizenship as well.
It's not just a claim to British citizenship. It occurs automatically by descent. "Shall be."
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He owes no allegiance to any other country
At birth, by descent, Obama owed allegiance to Britain via his non-citizen father. The DNC outright ADMITTED that the British Nationality Act of 1948 governed Obama's status.
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He was born an American citizen.
That's in dispute. He doesn't meet the 'subject to the jurisdiction' requirement defined by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Trumbull in the Congressional Record.
The INS recognizes that natural-born citizens are ALL citizens who acquire their citizenship at birth, but that some of those natural-born citizens aren't born within US borders. So native-born citizens are always natural-born citizens
Clearly NOT as they list native born and natural born as separate citizenship cases. That in itself admits that not all U.S. born children are natural born citizens.
It wasn't just a claim. He was automatically a British citizen at birth by descent. Not according to the definition given on record by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Trumbull. Only those not owing allegiance to anybody else were U.S. citizens by birth in the U.S. And cite the law stating mothers confer citizenship status to their U.S. born children.
It's not just a claim to British citizenship. It occurs automatically by descent. "Shall be."
At birth, by descent, Obama owed allegiance to Britain via his non-citizen father. The DNC outright ADMITTED that the British Nationality Act of 1948 governed Obama's status.
That's in dispute. He doesn't meet the 'subject to the jurisdiction' requirement defined by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Trumbull in the Congressional Record.
And my mother was automatically a Canadian citizen at birth. It is just a claim if it is never used. Obama owes allegiance to the country whose citizenship he claims and uses. His allegiance is to the United States. And solely to the United States. He was born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Because Hawaii is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Not to the jurisdiction of Great Britain.
Clearly NOT as they list native born and natural born as separate citizenship cases. That in itself admits that not all U.S. born children are natural born citizens.
Really? Which native-born children do they say aren't natural-born citizens? Excluding the children born to diplomats or to soldiers of occupying armies. Why would the INS make any rules about native-born children? They are the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Native-born children aren't immigrants, and native-born children don't need to be naturalized.
Really? Which native-born children do they say aren't natural-born citizens? Excluding the children born to diplomats or to soldiers of occupying armies. Why would the INS make any rules about native-born children?
They don't make the rules; they follow them. And they specifically denote that 'native born' and 'natural born' are two different types of citizenship.
He was born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Because Hawaii is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
That's faulty logic based on wishful thinking. Obama doesn't meet the 'subject to the jurisdiction' requirement which is defined in the Congressional Record by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Trumbull as such:
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"What do we mean by ‘subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means"
Anyone born in the U.S. who fits the criteria established in the Civil Rights Act of 1866, to wit: "all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States"
1) The Civil Rights Act of 1866 was merely a statute and cannot amend the Constitution.
2) It was further repealed in 1870.
3) It was further superseded by the Supreme Court decision, US v. Wong Kim Ark.
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...or the 14th Amendment including the 'subject to the jurisdiction' requirement as Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Trumbull defined it, to wit: "The provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means."
The US Supreme Court has declared Trumbll to have been wrong.
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The real object of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in qualifying the words, "All persons born in the United States" by the addition "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common law), the two classes of cases -- children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign State -- both of which, as has already been shown, by the law of England and by our own law from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country.
No. Obama's father's permanent domicile was Kenya based on his passport, student visa, and any temporary stay extensions that applied after his student visa expired.
What would lead you to hallucinate that a person's permanent domicile cannot be different at different times during their lives?
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