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Birthers have lost 201 cases at the original case level. They have lost more than 90 appeals, and 25 visits to the Supreme Court. This totals out to more than 316 losses... without a single win.
Zero.
Zilch.
Nada.
Niente.
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Nulla
Last edited by HistorianDude; 04-20-2013 at 12:43 PM..
Birthers have lost 201 cases at the original case level. They have lost more than 90 appeals, and 25 visits to the Supreme Court. This totals out to more that 316 losses... without a single win.
Zero.
Zilch.
Nada.
Niente.
无
κανένας
Nulla
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Originally Posted by dv1033
Lolz how many cases have you birthers won?
Do you want to participate?
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Originally Posted by Nonarchist
Was Wong Kim Ark (WKA) declared a native-born U.S. citizen?
Were his parents U.S. natives?
(By permanent domicile?)
Were his parents naturalized citizens at the time of his birth?
Was WKA born with dual citizenship?
Was WKA regarded by U.S. law, born a natural citizen of China because of his Chinese parentage?
Was WKA regarded by Chinese law, born a natural citizen of China because of his Chinese parentage?
Prior to his court case, did WKA renounce his natural Chinese citizenship?
Was there any reason for WKA to renounce his natural Chinese citizenship?
What would he have gained from doing so?
Did WKA want his children to have a shot at being president of the United States?
Did WKA's parents want WKA to have a shot at being president of the United States?
What can an American citizen do on his own to be as much a U.S. citizen as possible?
On a scale of lowest U.S. citizenship to highest U.S. citizenship, order the following:
a. Born on U.S. soil of neither parent being a U.S. citizen at the time of birth.
b. Born in a foreign country of only one U.S. citizen parent citizened by naturalization.
c. Born in a foreign country of two U.S. citizen parents both citizened by naturalization.
d. Born of a mother with non-naturalized U.S. citizenship, but born outside the U.S.
e. Born of a father with non-naturalized U.S. citizenship, but born outside the U.S.
f. Born of two non-naturalized U.S. citizen parents, but born outside the U.S.
g. Born of a mother with naturalized U.S. citizenship, but born outside the U.S.
h. Born of a father with naturalized U.S. citizenship, but born outside the U.S.
i. Born of two naturalized U.S. citizen parents, but born outside the U.S.
j. Born of two non-naturalized U.S. citizen parents, but born outside the U.S.
k. Born of two non-naturalized U.S. citizen parents, but born within the U.S.
Your order will be graded by Vattel, John Jay, the Framers, and others.
the Constitution has given those courts the authority to decide what is in error and what is not.
Where does the Constitution say judges can lie about the facts to get what they want?
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When a referee makes a bad call that's contrary to the rules, the error belongs to the referee, Not the rules.
That's exactly my point. Gray erred. He wrote many untruths in his opinion. Historical fact is easy to check. Much more so now than when Gray submitted his opinion. We know better than to trust lying authority figures anymore. Well, some of us do. You're not that advanced.
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What is particularly delicious there is not only does Justice Gray eviscerate any claim that the Slaughterhouse dicta you quoted has any authority, he used Minor V, Happersett to do it. Yes... the reason he quotes Minor is to directly contradict the claim that children of aliens are not citizens.
Minor doesn't say they are citizens. It says there are doubts that they are citizens.
Apparently, your reading comprehension skills are quite weak.
Where does the Constitution say judges can lie about the facts to get what they want?
The same exact place it says that delusional nutjobs on the Internet are more qualified to understand Supreme Court Decisions than professional judges with decades of legal experience.
Gray did not err. The decisison in Wong Kim Ark is the most erudite and comprehensive review of US Citizenship law ever provided by the court. This is what accounts for the fact that it has been so widely cited by subsequent courts, and in decisions by (wait for it) every single currently sitting justice on the US Supreme Court.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Minor doesn't say they are citizens. It says there are doubts that they are citizens.
And by so doing, it contradicted the less tentative statement from The Slaughterhouse Cases that you tried to foist off on this thread.
You fail fractally.
Last edited by HistorianDude; 04-20-2013 at 02:30 PM..
Odd. I'm more widely known for my loathing of anonymous nutjob bloggers, and my affection for math.
Did you know that anonymous nutjobs who cite anonymous nutjobs in support of their nutjobbery are the functional equivalent of adding zero to itself multiple times?
Odd. I'm more widely known for my loathing of anonymous nutjob bloggers, and my affection for math.
Did you know that anonymous nutjobs who cite anonymous nutjobs in support of their nutjobbery are the functional equivalent of adding zero to itself multiple times?
It still adds up to zero.
Tell it like it is.
"Odd. I'm more commonly known as one of the many screwjob bloggers, and my affection for obfuscation.
Did you know that anonymous screwjobs who cite anonymous screwjobs in support of their screwjobbery are susceptible to binding by their screwery?"
There!
Fixed it for you.
Last edited by Nonarchist; 04-20-2013 at 03:03 PM..
Great! Then you'll have no problem showing us where in the Constitution it says judges can lie about the facts to get what they want.
Let's see it!
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