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Old 11-02-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Not lying. I'm stating FACTS.
Oh?

Okay... then here's the question before the court again:

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The question is presented in this case, whether, since the adoption of the fourteenth amendment, a woman, who is a citizen of the United States and of the State of Missouri, is a voter in that State, notwithstanding the provision of the constitution and laws of the State, which confine the right of suffrage to men alone.
Where there is any question regarding Virginia Minor's citizenship citizenship?

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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
You may believe so, but SCOTUS clearly did not. In the decision, SCOTUS examined and defined Minor's Constitutional citizenship status in terms of the SCOTUS definition of Constitutional NBC and found it adequate to evaluate whether she had a Consitutional right of suffrage.

Plain as day.
Dicta can often be very plain. It's still merely dicta.

 
Old 11-02-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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You did when you claimed this :
SCOTUS directly interprets US citizenship law.
for your reference
 
Old 11-02-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Then why didn't they determine that she was entitled to vote?
Because the Constitution does not specifically guarantee the right of suffrage to any one. That's already been posted in this thread.
 
Old 11-02-2011, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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post #663 Vattel
Make a point or don't. I really don't care.
 
Old 11-02-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
FALSE.

In Minor v. Happersett, SCOTUS examined and defined Minor's Constitutional citizenship status in terms of the SCOTUS definition of Constitutional NBC and found it adequate to evaluate whether she had a Consitutional right of suffrage.

Plain as day.
agree 100%! SCOTUS elaborated on Minor's citizenship so extensively in the decision, that many Supreme court cases afterwards cited Minor on the citizenship argument calling it a decision. People need to stop talking about irrelevant anchor baby crap, Vattel, George Washington letters, all that is GARBAGE from the legal stand point! Minor is still Supreme law today! and it's the ONLY place where NBC is defined constitutionally!
 
Old 11-02-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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for your reference
I know that post. It was egregiously stupid. The statement he accused me of making bears no resemblance whatsoever to the one he then pointed to.

If you think that was being busted, then you are exactly as brilliant as IC.
 
Old 11-02-2011, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Because the Constitution does not specifically guarantee the right of suffrage to any one. That's already been posted in this thread.
Right.

That's why Virginia Minor's citizenship was irrelevant. It wouldn't have made a difference one way or the other.
 
Old 11-02-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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....and it's the ONLY place where NBC is defined constitutionally!
but it's not an exclusive definition.
 
Old 11-02-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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You did when you claimed this :
SCOTUS directly interprets US citizenship law.
Perhaps all this will be moot, when they expose the fraudulent bc.

Arpaio came up with the idea to demand the original microfilm of Obama's birth certificate after he saw evidence from his Cold Case Posse in Maricopa County, Ariz., that apparently released to the public three different versions of the long-form birth certificate.

"Show me the microfilm, not the copies the White House released," Arpaio has insisted.

Read more: Sheriff Joe: 'Show me the microfilm!' Sheriff Joe: 'Show me the microfilm!'
 
Old 11-02-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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agree 100%! SCOTUS elaborated on Minor's citizenship so extensively in the decision, that many Supreme court cases afterwards cited Minor on the citizenship argument calling it a decision. People need to stop talking about irrelevant anchor baby crap, Vattel, George Washington letters, all that is GARBAGE from the legal stand point! Minor is still Supreme law today! and it's the ONLY place where NBC is defined constitutionally!
Minor has never once been cited as precedent regarding its definition of citizen. The reason it is most commonly cited is its assertion that the Constitution must be understood in the language of common law. That was one of the two reasons it was cited in Wong.

In Wong it was also cited to prove that the Court did not believe that the children of aliens were not citizens.

Both reasons it was cited are bad for Birthers.
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