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Yeah screw all the poor white people though they deserve it.
He didn't say that... what he did say is that in addition to all the other reasons why Americans in general suffer from poverty, blacks also had to deal with institutionalized racism, which is something that poor whites do not deal with. Does that mean its easy to be poor and white? No. However, they factually do not deal with institutionalized racism. The playing field between poor whites and poor blacks is factually not equal.
That's where you are wrong. AA does not give anyone a leg up over white people. It helps to level the playing field so the kid that grew up in the ghetto, who worked his ass off to get to college, is able to attend college.
Seriously, educate yourself on AA. It isn't a handout. FAR from it.
I missed this post.
You are somehow under the impression that because both reach the same end result that there was no preferential treatment.
That's like saying if one person walks from New York to Los Angeles, and another person flies from JFK to LAX, they made the same journey.
Because that's exactly what's happening. Those that don't benefit from AA, aka white American males, are making the journey solely on foot. Whereas some others are given a completely free ride, while others walk part of the way, and take a plane or train for a few hundred miles in the middle.
Unless you made the entire journey on foot, you didn't make the same journey as the guy who did.
....and those minority kids "working their ass off" to go to school aren't working nearly as hard as the poor white kid who gets no breaks whatsoever. For example.... UNCF
Whatever happened 50 to 200 years ago is in the past. FIFTY YEARS of affirmative action is enough. We, as in my demographic, white Americans, need to stand up and demand it ends. Things are tough all over. Nobody should be getting a leg up unless they earn it. What your great grandfather had to go through in his life does not equate to earning squat.
Attitude is part of the puzzle, sure. Denying that minorities struggle much more in their journeys to success would be laughable, if it weren't so sad.
You will not get a denial from me.
However, regardless of how your life began, you need to move forward.
You're right. We have been treated differently lately.
I've been in my career quite a while, and haven't seen a promotion in a good long time. I guess in my line of work that is to be expected.
On the other hand, my non-white wife was promoted at work, not once but twice in 2011.
So yeah, I guess our experiences have been different.
My wife, the female minority immigrant, a "hat trick" minority, is doing better than most people in the country this year. She has never made excuses for herself by pulling the race card, the gender card, or the immigrant card.
She just did it the old fashioned way. She earned it.
I got two jobs deaf-blind but I still acknowledge it's harder to get a job deaf and blind than it is hearing-sighted. Have you considered that perhaps your wife has been and is successful, but that it is is still, as a general trend, more difficult for a person of color to get a job than a white person? A one case scenario isn't representative of the whole, otherwise deaf-blind people and Black people would be getting jobs left and right--which is obviously not the case. The unemployment rate is much higher within both groups than it is within the population at large.
....and considering who my wife is, what really ticks me off about the affirmative action programs is it takes away from those who actually work hard and compete fairly for what they have.
It also gives those who are competent, and get by on their own abilities, a lesser reputation than they deserve.
I agree. Which is why affirmative action is a sloppy approach. But that doesn't mean we can just deny racism exists altogether. Just because the "solution" sucks doesn't mean there's no problem to begin with. Instead, we need to come up with a better solution.
If anything their is raging prejudices with Al Sharpton talking with a resentment of hate towards whites.. most white people are sick of hearing they are the racists.. yes, better look at the truth of it all, there is black resentment to white people who never did a darn thing against a black.
"A black". Lol.
That said, yes there are racist black people who hate white people too. But the general societal trend is that white people within America are on the receiving end of a general set of positive assumptions that other groups aren't. Black-on-White racism isn't institutionalized the way White-on-Black racism is. Black-on-White racism within the U.S. isn't backed up by a history of slavery and segregation the way White-on-Black racism is. Apples and oranges.
You are somehow under the impression that because both reach the same end result that there was no preferential treatment.
That's like saying if one person walks from New York to Los Angeles, and another person flies from JFK to LAX, they made the same journey.
Because that's exactly what's happening. Those that don't benefit from AA, aka white American males, are making the journey solely on foot. Whereas some others are given a completely free ride, while others walk part of the way, and take a plane or train for a few hundred miles in the middle.
Unless you made the entire journey on foot, you didn't make the same journey as the guy who did.
....and those minority kids "working their ass off" to go to school aren't working nearly as hard as the poor white kid who gets no breaks whatsoever. For example.... UNCF
Whatever happened 50 to 200 years ago is in the past. FIFTY YEARS of affirmative action is enough. We, as in my demographic, white Americans, need to stand up and demand it ends. Things are tough all over. Nobody should be getting a leg up unless they earn it. What your great grandfather had to go through in his life does not equate to earning squat.
But it is still happening today.
Black and you have coke... jail.
White and you have coke... no jail.
All this is proven. Facts.
Now the blacks get out of jail and can't get jobs.
Of course, they should not have had the coke in the first place... can't deny that...
There are many issues that need to be fixed in the black community, but gov't has a role... to say "things are equal 'cause we have a black president" is pretty stupid. A President is just that... a President of the United States. All the people. Nothing much has nor will change because we have a black president.
In the news now, those kids beat up and killed a black man. Dude laughted about and said, "I ran that ****** over." Ha, ha, ha....
These slave states were competing with global cotton production.
Or, maybe they were comprised of greedy crackers.
They all had to do it, or go broke trying to compete with those who did.
We have that same "business dynamic" with China, right now.
So, we either convert to slavery, or die.
The 14th Amendment nationalized slavery.
The ruling classes, the driving force of imperialism, were divided: Some saw the democratic reforms, "citizenship", as a means of raising mass conscriptions for imperial wars;
For the same reason that it is totally acceptable to have a spanish club, asian club, black student union, and any other pro minority club at a high school in this country, yet it would be unacceptable to have a white student union or aryan club.
Oh wait.... I'd better shuffle back off to Stormfront.
Better polish those boots mister if you do!
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