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Old 10-23-2011, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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U.S. rating likely to be downgraded again: Merrill

(Reuters) - The United States will likely suffer the loss of its triple-A credit rating from another major rating agency by the end of this year due to concerns over the deficit, Bank of America Merrill Lynch forecasts.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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Who shot down the Obama/Boehner deal? The tea party did because it had 800 billion in tax revenue increases.
Obama did ... don't you remember Obama moved the goal post just before the final agreement. Obama had no intentions of an agreement from the get go.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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We wouldn't be in this spot if the tea party didn't shoot down the Obama/Boehner grand bargain.
This financial crisis is decades of bipartisan support in the making. To blame this on the TEA Party is rather disingenuous.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:49 PM
 
Location: NJ
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"Standard and Poors clearly stated that $4 trillion need to be cut in order to indicate fiscal responsibility and avoid a credit downgrade, and our brilliant leaders could come up with less than half that."

Largely due to the fact TP scared Bohener off Grand Compromise, which did eliminate $4 trillion from deficit. Half ot it via (to use Reagans' term for his 5) "Revenue Enhancements".

Winter Sucks is CORRECT. At least, I wanted to see a public vote on it, with ZERO adders to the bill. Shown on EVERY Network live..with EVERY newspaper publishing on page 1 in large font the voting record by individual.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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"Standard and Poors clearly stated that $4 trillion need to be cut in order to indicate fiscal responsibility and avoid a credit downgrade, and our brilliant leaders could come up with less than half that."

Largely due to the fact TP scared Bohener off Grand Compromise, which did eliminate $4 trillion from deficit. Half ot it via (to use Reagans' term for his 5) "Revenue Enhancements".
"Revenue enhancements" would have done little other than encourage more unfunded spending. There were very few meaningful spending cuts in the Boehner/Obama compromise.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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"Revenue enhancements" would have done little other than encourage more unfunded spending. There were very few meaningful spending cuts in the Boehner/Obama compromise.
There were few in any of the packages proposed and most were over 10 years and to future spending.

S&P said cut $4 trillion and they refused to do it.
That's the bottom line.

We're no closer today than we were when S&P issued that. If anything we're going the opposite direction with proposed spending bills.

We deserve the downgrade.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:01 PM
 
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We deserve the downgrade.
Yes, we do. Sadly the nation as a whole will suffer as a result of the greed of it's elected leaders.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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"Standard and Poors clearly stated that $4 trillion need to be cut in order to indicate fiscal responsibility and avoid a credit downgrade, and our brilliant leaders could come up with less than half that."

Largely due to the fact TP scared Bohener off Grand Compromise, which did eliminate $4 trillion from deficit. Half ot it via (to use Reagans' term for his 5) "Revenue Enhancements".

Winter Sucks is CORRECT. At least, I wanted to see a public vote on it, with ZERO adders to the bill. Shown on EVERY Network live..with EVERY newspaper publishing on page 1 in large font the voting record by individual.
You mean more taxes? All that will do is embolden Washington to spend more. We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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This is from the actual S&P report itself:

"Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now
assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012,
(Bush tax cuts to the rich)
remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues"

http://www.standardandpoors.com/serv...ervalue3=UTF-8

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Old 10-23-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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U.S. rating likely to be downgraded again: Merrill

(Reuters) - The United States will likely suffer the loss of its triple-A credit rating from another major rating agency by the end of this year due to concerns over the deficit, Bank of America Merrill Lynch forecasts.

soon everyone will be able to pay off all their bills really really fast, as hyperinflation kicks in and you can pay off a home in 1 payday it will go really fast. the downside to hyperinflation will be that even if you can afford to pay all your bills and debt off in 1 paycheck, you probably wont be able to afford even 1 loaf of bread.
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