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Old 10-27-2011, 01:21 AM
 
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One more post and you'll claim the dumbest person on the planet reward. .

Sorry, you already won that award with your first post in this thread. it can't be awarded more than once. Congratulations.
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:22 AM
 
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Sorry, you already won that award with your first post in this thread. it can't be awarded more than once. Congratulations.
Your backers left you long ago. Maybe they understand who NOVA is....
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:23 AM
 
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Because seeing that fetus is the antithesis of the pro-abortionist.
False. Its a nanti-women form of abuse to make a woman feel guilty about choosing abortion. Its claiming that women are inherently dumb/stupid that they don't know what abortion entails. Its nothing but propaganda.

Women already know what abortion is. You think so lowly of them?


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I can only imagine at this point you're being purposefully obtuse and maybe even dumb as a rock on purpose.
The only obtuse persons in this thread has been you and your fellow anti-women/women haters.
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Let's not pretend adoption agencies don't have wonderful couples on adoption waiting lists for years.

The professional couple who adopted my nephew were on a waiting list for two years.


Women don't get abortions because they don't want a child or are incapable of caring for a child.

The reason women get abortions is they don't want to be pregnant.

They don't want their **** to fall.

They don't want stretch marks.

They don't want to get fat.

They don't want to live with the physical discomfort of a pregnancy.

They don't want to be embarrassed.
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Who are usually looking for newborn babies. Not children.

Most of the kids in foster care and available for adoption are 10 years of age.

most adult couples do not want to adopt a child that old.



good for them for waiting and good for your nephew to find a couple who was willing to wait.

That's not the case for every child.




That is over simplified and they aren't the ONLY reasons.

In the case of those that I know who got abortions:

1) Abusive relationship - didn't want to subject herself and her unborn child to abuse by her then boyfriend

2) Medical issues - ectopic pregnancy would have costed her life

3) Husband was a solider in the military and she couldn't deal with raising a baby on her own (he was going to be deployed for most of the first year of her raising the child on her own). Her husband agreed. 10 years later, they have three beautiful children, as they were ready to have them.


None of these situations are on your list.

"Who are usually looking for newborn babies. Not children."

Surprisingly, slightly more (71%) seriously consider adopting older kids while only 63% seek an infant.

Foster Care Statistics 2009


"Most of the kids in foster care and available for adoption are 10 years of age."


My cousins (two sisters) were adopted at about ages 6 and 7. They are both in their thirties now. Some couples may not want to adopt older kids because they may be afraid of being able to connect to a child who may have behavioral issues. The girls were wild when they were first adopted but they calmed down and adjusted to their new environment as time went on.




"good for them for waiting and good for your nephew to find a couple who was willing to wait. That's not the case for every child."

The point to this statement is what?



"That is over simplified and they aren't the ONLY reasons.

In the case of those that I know who got abortions:

1) Abusive relationship - didn't want to subject herself and her unborn child to abuse by her then boyfriend

2) Medical issues - ectopic pregnancy would have costed her life

3) Husband was a solider in the military and she couldn't deal with raising a baby on her own (he was going to be deployed for most of the first year of her raising the child on her own). Her husband agreed. 10 years later, they have three beautiful children, as they were ready to have them."


1. Didn't want her kid abused so she killed him or her instead?

Adoption was not an option because _______.

2. OK

3. Because her husband was in the military she couldn't allow a nice couple to adopt her child and decided to kill him or her instead?
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:48 AM
 
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1. Didn't want her kid abused so she killed him or her instead?

Adoption was not an option because _______.
Because she knew that her abusive boyfriend would not give up his parental rights to put the child up for adoption.

Abortion only relies on the mother's decision. Adoption requires the cosent of both parents (if known).

Since he was the father, and it was known, she knew that he would fight her if she gave the child up for adoption

Many of you forget that adoption requires the parents give up their rights. If one of them disagrees, then there is usually a fight over the child.



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3. Because her husband was in the military she couldn't allow a nice couple to adopt her child and decided to kill him or her instead?
What does it matter to you? it was her and her husband's choice to make. You nor I are in any position to dicate or force her to decide what to do with her own body.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:32 AM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Last time I checked, this nation was not founded on lies and our Constitutional rights still come from God.
As soon as you bring "God", "scripture", or other such unverifiable nonsense into an argument, you've lost.

Major fail. Go ahead and try again.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:57 AM
 
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....because deep down, in her heart of hearts where there's no such thing as being a Liberal or Conservative, she knows that what she's doing is not right. Otherwise, it would be like looking at any other picture and wouldnt' have any effect. But it does have an effect. That's why she doesn't want to see it.

And that's why there's so much resistance to laws requiring an ultrasound before having an abortion. Out of sight, out of mind is the name of the game. Not seeing the fetus would help her to ignore the consequences.

I know it. You know it. We all know it. But for some reason, every other excuse in the book is pulled out by those who have a problem with it.
Who cares why she doesn't want to see it. The real question is what business of yours is it to force her to go through with this medical procedure.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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says the person who can't even understand the Unborn Victims of Violence Act

Unborn Victims of Violence Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well...you believe that abortions are illegal in the third trimester....
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:00 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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And this is exactly where all of these threads end.

There is no moment at which a non-person becomes a person except conception.

A man is responsible for creating a child at the moment of conception and is obligated to provide for all this child's needs for the next eighteen years and nine months.

It seems no such moment exists for the mother who may excuse herself from responsibility for her decision at any time and for any reason except for a three month period in which she looses all of her reproductive rights and control over her body.
No-one ever suggested that this made any sense...it also makes the mantra of 'It's her body and her choice' a lie.

It cannot be her body if she is stopped from having an abortion in the third trimester,there must be someone else involved...

Who could that be?
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:02 AM
 
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OP, are you inside every single woman's head? Oh wait--you're not?

No, you don't know it. I don't know it. We don't all know it. Because we don't know every single woman's situation and we don't know what's going on inside every single woman's head.
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