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Old 10-28-2011, 04:50 AM
 
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Yea.

When I matured and became less selfish I realized that life begins at conception.
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:53 AM
 
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Yea.

When I matured and became less selfish I realized that life begins at conception.
How is being pro-choice selfish? I think it's selfish to demand that women carry unwanted pregnancies and raise unwanted children.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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I rarely post on abortion threads, because I figure what is the point. People are so polarized and there isn't much room for compromise. So the question has anyone on this board ever changed their mind on the issue because of information they received or life experience etc.
I definetly changed stances. i was very much pro choice. then my baby was killed by her mother without even talking to me. i then realized its more than a womans body, more than her choice. more than a lump of cells. its easy to call life a lump of cells to defend killing it. But its still denying a life. its more than the mothers body, its the babys body . the baby is more than the mothers baby its the fathers baby to. Abortion is more than about the mother, its about a baby , a life, the father . hard reality made me change my mind. So do not think i do not udnerstand yoru argument i just now find your argument a fallacy

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Old 10-28-2011, 07:18 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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How many abortions are performed every year?
Somewhere around a million.
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How many are third tri-mester?

1%? 2%?
No idea,if it is so that would mean quite a few....

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Yet, you and other pro-lifers like you, like to point to third tri-mester abortions as the norm when you argue to ban abortion. Post pictures of third tri-mester abortions, etc. Pass off pictures of a fetus that was dead before it was cut up to facilitate removal as having been cut up before it was dead.
Who wants to ban abortion?
You support taking away a woman's right to choose when she has her abortion,you favor restricting it to an arbitrary(and no longer applicable) timeline thought up in 1972....
All I asked is how looking at an ultrasound is restricting anything.

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Don't like it when those tactics are turned on you....do ya?
Well...it didn't accomplish anything so I don't mind in the least.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I don't believe restricting first trimester abortions are the right thing to do. I would not agree with such a measure.
Do you favor restricting it in later months?

If so,on what grounds?
I mean while it is riskier for the woman,that is her choice to make.
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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From one liberal to another. I can respect that. Before my first child was born, I was more I don't care than anything else, now I am torn.
This is my same situation...before our first child I was 100% pro-choice...now,years later I'm pro-life...but I still do not feel I nor anyone else have the "right" to tell a woman what to do with her own body.
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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Do you favor restricting it in later months?

If so,on what grounds?
I mean while it is riskier for the woman,that is her choice to make.
I think once the baby can survive on it's own under another person's care, then abortion should no longer be an option - unless the mother's health would be compromised. This includes if the baby could not be prematurely delivered without harming the mother.
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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Neither for nor against. But I am against public funds paying for it. An option I would live with is make the recipient pay back the costs. Call it a low interest loan and that includes the sperm donar.
How many THOUSANDS of posts have to be made of the fact that abortions are not paid for by taxpayers. But an unwanted pregnancy and 18 years of welfare is.
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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Neither for nor against. But I am against public funds paying for it. An option I would live with is make the recipient pay back the costs. Call it a low interest loan and that includes the sperm donar.
cheaper than having the kid and welfaring it up for the next 20 years
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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How many THOUSANDS of posts have to be made of the fact that abortions are not paid for by taxpayers. But an unwanted pregnancy and 18 years of welfare is.
How many times will a post be made why kill 16 million because you think everyone will fail in life. many great people started poor
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