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Old 10-27-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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If you can't see a felony commited by the cops here your blind...


Occupy Oakland - Flashbangs USED on protesters OPD LIES - YouTube

I don't agree with Commies and whiners, but that's NO EXCUSE for these cops...
The OWS people are not Commies or whiners, but even those kinds of people have the right (just as those KKKs did) to peaceably assemble. That's what they were doing and the cops couldn't handle that.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So they shoot a guy in the head and people go to his aid then they toss a flash bang at em...

Nobody's charging at the cops, it's not self defense...

If the cops felt threatened they could have called for backup, there was no crime in progress that warranted that kind of assault...

I don't agree with a lot of these Occupussies, but I disagree with a Police state, what happens when they shoot you???
Early, you need to study the weapons used by both sides. As close as I can get those flash-bangs are fire crackers thrown by the protesters and those big flash heavy smoke things are tear gas that is used to disperse them. I saw that video yesterday of how those solid groups of protesters scattered every direction to avoid the tear gas. Sometimes the heavier armor is owned by the police, as needs to be since they are so heavily outnumbered by rioters.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:37 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Did you see the video of the police throwing the guy (peaceful attendee) out of his wheelchair onto the ground and leaving him there face-down and bloodied, claiming that he "fell out of his chair on his own"--? Videos don't lie. So far, nothing has happened to these cops, not even a reprimand. Disgusting.
Exactly, Im wondering why they didn't start arresting people first instead of opening fire on unarmed people???

They knew what they were up against, I don't envy em, that job would suck...

They should have had more cops there arresting people and none of the SWAT team crap...

I don't support the whole protest for Bigger Government, but I cant just laugh and call em stupid when I watch Cops assault people just because I disagree with em...

It's very likely that if they get what they want and collapse the system that will likely collapse all on it's own anyway, those cops will be after me...

I do know that if 0bama were to win the election and expand his agenda there will be some very angry people most likely in front of the FED and in DC...

I'll be disappearing if that happens...
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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That phrase generally applies to killing people. tear gas as a means to disperse illegal gatherings on the street really isn't a new development in policing.

There is nothing illegal in peaceable gatherings of any kind. Go back and read your fourth-grade American history book.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Do you know the text of the foundation document of the U.S.?

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

Fourth-grade American history.

The OWS was intentionally organized around nonviolence.
Interrupting commerce and creating tent shanties in the middle of major American Cities has NOTHING to do with the 1st Amendment. They have the right to peaceably assemble, but not the right to interfere with the health, safety, or business interests of any particular place.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:40 PM
 
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The real Socialists are the Corporate-Banking Welfare Crooks, get your facts straight.

Do you feel yourself responsible enough, that once you topple the U.S. government, that you would only look out for everyone equally? Do you think that you and your unwashed boyfriends/transvestites would really make everyone equal?

No, you only want sandal dictatorship.


Send an innocent girl to college ... and make her part of your concubine.


FREEDOM BABY, FREEDOM, SOCIALISM, FREEDOM.



Couldn't be any better than for my little daughter to get raped by you unbathed occupiers ... who won't even work hard enough to pay for an apartment.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Early, you need to study the weapons used by both sides. As close as I can get those flash-bangs are fire crackers thrown by the protesters and those big flash heavy smoke things are tear gas that is used to disperse them. I saw that video yesterday of how those solid groups of protesters scattered every direction to avoid the tear gas. Sometimes the heavier armor is owned by the police, as needs to be since they are so heavily outnumbered by rioters.
Opening fire with rubber bullets on a crowd is just gonna agitate more people and next time it happens I wouldn't be surprised to see some nuts start shooting real bullets back at em...
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I don't support the whole protest for Bigger Government...
Whoa, where did you get that??? They are opposing Corporate Welfare, Insane Bank Bailouts, Government Waste (the Wrong Focus on War), at the Devastating Cost to Our Economy. Jobs is part of it, but it is the whole bloomin' picture, that affects all of us. How can you be against those motives? Do you think they're out there for a good time?
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:49 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Whoa, where did you get that??? They are opposing Corporate Welfare, Insane Bank Bailouts, Government Waste (the Wrong Focus on War), at the Devastating Cost to Our Economy. Jobs is part of it, but it is the whole bloomin' picture, that affects all of us. How can you be against those motives? Do you think they're out there for a good time?
Then take it to DC and the State house and demand they do something and if they don't, vote em out...
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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What on earth is wrong with some of you people...These protesters are exercising their first amendment rights in the same way the people did when your country was founded. They are patriots and do not deserve to be smeared with all the lies spread about them.
The truth can be found here... The Demographics Of Occupy Wall Street | Fast Company
I googled Fast Company and found a place where they hug trees and blame Americans for having cheaper energy than about anywhere else. I don't think I want to accept much of anything they say about these occupies since they are such heavy tree huggers. The worst thing I saw there was a picture of a Brazilian plan out filming the disappearing rain forests and where the plane was there was no sign of any kind of rain forest. I know propaganda when I see it.
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