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Unlike some of you, I believe in a strong national defense. A strong and efficient national defense is a whole lot different than one full of bloat and waste. I say look at the areas of biggest spending and see what you can cut that will have little impact on services first--that's just good business. Defense is a likely candidate.
There is so much bloat in defense that it will boggle your mind. But any cuts to defense will hit red states/ counties hard. So its become all about stealing tax dollars and giving it to your preferred group.
Some people hate their government so much that they want to hurt it and their method is to cut it, which means that a million people could lose their jobs. Are the government workers to blame? If not, why should they suffer? Why should they lose their job or have their benefits reduced? What if someone decided that your profession was overpaid and did the same thing to you?
It is foolish to choose a slash and burn strategy because you don't like something. I'm surprised at the level of destructive thinking that conservatives tend to offer when it comes to government. This is not the kind of thinking we need for what we all have a say in: government. Of course, the conservative mindset will argue with its "but..."s and make the silly assumption that liberal thinking is the exact opposite (meaning that liberals want to overspend or be wasteful), but that is simply not true. Liberals believe in government as a provider of solutions, not the source of problems, and it can be when people have their heads on straight and contribute sensibly to the process. Conservatives seem to just not want to participate in this winning strategy.
Last edited by mhouse2001; 10-28-2011 at 12:00 PM..
He is correct, the feds have been losing jobs. Also many departments have hiring freezes.
No he is not correct. The Obama admin added tens of thousands plus of government jobs over the last couple of years while the private sector has been hemorrhaging 10 times that in the same period. Where do you guys get your propaganda, errr, information from?
Do you have ANY facts or figures to back that up or is it just an assumption?
Are you telling me if we got rid of the EPA, which makes sure pollutants that cause birth defects and other health problems are regulated, we wouldn't see a rise in birth defects and other health problems?
Have you ever done business in China where there is no EPA? I have. Cancer and lung disease are through the roof. Also, just take a look at the history of USA and understand why EPA was created. We used to be a very filthy and polluted country.
Nope, but I've seen the atrocities in China and agree with you there.
The thing is though that I honestly dont believe you need them anymore, certainly not at the level you have now. I mean thats like saying we need a multi-billion dollar agency to make sure we put seat belts and air bags in cars. Sure some manufacturers might decide not to, but how long do you think they would stay in business?
our saftey standards are SO much better now than they were in the past, I dont think we need to be overloading business with these regulations that for the most part consumers have come to expect and demand.
It took the NTP (a division of the NIH) to get BPA regulation right in 1982, after 16 years of the EPA having it wrong. Now sure the NTP/NIH is a government agency, but clearly there is some unnecessary overlap as illustrated by this. Oh, and after that, Consumer Reports (not the government) had involvement in linking the BPA issue to baby bottles...so yeah, huge and inefficient government "solutions" are not always the answer.
No he is not correct. The Obama admin added tens of thousands plus of government jobs over the last couple of years while the private sector has been hemorrhaging 10 times that in the same period. Where do you guys get your propaganda, errr, information from?
Dude, I do business in the DC area with many agencies and contractors. I know what I am taking about. You people living in other parts of the country have no clue what goes on here.
Are you telling me if we got rid of the EPA, which makes sure pollutants that cause birth defects and other health problems are regulated, we wouldn't see a rise in birth defects and other health problems?
I'm telling you its quite possible that getting rid of, or significantly reducing the EPA and leveraging other agencies would be a better solution, yes. See my previous post for one example.
You are correct, however the number of contractors has TRIPLED in the same time frame. We have approximately 6 MILLION contractors to do federal work.
yep contractors that cost MORE than the federal worker
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