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The monument opened in 2004, you ignorant jackasses.
Before you get all butt-hurt about shoving religion in there, I invite you to look at the decades spent in developing and designing the monument - that's when you make your voice heard. Now a group of people belatedly find it is somehow incomplete without extra Jesus, so they want to add their personal touch. Well, that's not how monuments work, guys.
The administration has it 100% right: You don't get to change national monuments, no matter how heartfelt your feelings are.
Germany has surpressed teaching that period of history.
Not at all. German schoolkids are introduced to the crimes of National Socialism many, many times during their education and for most that includes a pilgrimage (if that's the word) to a Concentration Camp. They're very, very aware of that timeframe and they're not going to let that happen again. Hell, basicall every town and village will have a monument or square dedicated to the victims of National Socialism.
I lived next to Germany for decades and in Germany for year, and I never heard anyone try to deny their country's past, nor make excuses for it. Sure, when pressed, they'd perhaps be sad that some of their cities were reduced to rubble and wish that their defeat could have been less costly - I've never heard anyone express anything but a sort of resigned satisfaction that the evil in their midst was uprooted so they could rebuild their country.
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Sure, that will definitely offend some Germans who were and still are in support of the Nazis but most of the German people probably hated the path the Nazis took their nation and find FDR's phrase to be perfectly applicable.
Apart from the very few attention whores who claim to be Neo-Nazis, modern Germany detests the Nazi ideology. They realize damn well that the centuries of accomplishments of German-speaking people - and their decades of building a successful, democratic nation - will always be tainted by the crimes of their forefathers.
It wasn't necessary when the memorial was built, and it's not necessary today.
You are so right, but maybe you don't see what the OP is saying about why it can't be added today. Have you seen much about what Islamists are saying about the secular feelings of the US lately? I guess you don't know that the present wave of secularism was begun with the beginning of progressivism even before Roosevelt and that war.
Those words weren't necessary when the monument went up but today we have come to the point where secularists just can't stand to see them put up because it would be a defeat for them.
No. It doesn't concern me in the least nor do I consider it 'suppressing' history.
Have to ask: why is it, do you think, that it wasn't included to begin with?
Perhaps people had a better understanding of the separation between church and state in the 40s and 50s than they do now.
Ironic, isn't it, given how many people think those were the 'good old days.'
That separation you talk about hadn't taken place by 1950 although the progressives were pushing it along. I think that when many of those monuments went up, during my early lifetime, people knew about those prayers like that one but by today with progressives doing what the OP suggested many are feeling that the progs are winning and want to get back to the days when Roosevelt could utter that prayer and not be put down by so many of his prog kind.
Can you list a whole pile of things that indicated that the separation that progs have had to see happen were really necessary? Will the coming revolution be just economic in nature or is there a chance that Christians, you do know that most Central Americans are Catholics and that is Christian, will be the ones pushing it. We still outnumber you people by quite a number and those illegals will side with us once they learn what secularism is really all about.
Ehm - who is it, exactly, who's using legislative resources to modify a monument rather than creating jobs, here?
Who is trying to create jobs with all the added regulation that his group has been stacking on us? I don't see any of his jobs bill as anything more than an attempt to get something going he can use in the election, if he allows it to take place.
Do you fail to see any of what I have said that is going on?
the 3rd reich was unholy no doubt about it. but to be fair mr obama knows saying the truth does not always turn out well. his way is the classic mideastern way, do not say the truth at all. praise your enemies, apologize to them in public, then at night send assassins.
I'll support the addition to the monument if the creators and supporters of the addition will give away their German and Japanese cars.
They would have never voted for FDR in a million years. Why do they care now what he prayed on D-Day?
When a man does something that is more politically motivated than religiously motivated maybe putting it there is not a bad idea. What will people think about the prayer not being there 30 years from now when nothing like that prayer has been allowed in schools for that long? I say that secularism has its needs and you are trying to further them.
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The monument opened in 2004, you ignorant jackasses.
