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Old 11-05-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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twist, turn and run because they don't really want jobs. Here is a beautiful example of how hard they work to keep from having to work. I guess all they want is to protest and make noise.

How Did Occupy D.C. Protesters Respond to a Table Full of Job Applications? | CowboyByte (http://cowboybyte.com/1668/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/ - broken link)
If I had a choice between taking part in changing the course of my country or flipping burgers or sitting in a cubicle, I'd go with option #1 as long as I am able. I'd consider it important and meaningful. I'd call it patriotic, too.

You are misguided to suggest that these people are complaining solely about a lack of jobs or that they are a bunch of losers. The oft-compared Tea Party participants are protesting for themselves, not their country. It's all about them and having the country conform to their rigid exclusionary standards at the expense of any alternate view. I don't sense any sense of elitism or exclusion with the OWS. They don't say they KNOW better (like the TP does with every breath), they simply WANT better.
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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If I had a choice between taking part in changing the course of my country or flipping burgers or sitting in a cubicle, I'd go with option #1 as long as I am able. I'd consider it important and meaningful. I'd call it patriotic, too.

You are misguided to suggest that these people are complaining solely about a lack of jobs or that they are a bunch of losers. The oft-compared Tea Party participants are protesting for themselves, not their country. It's all about them and having the country conform to their rigid exclusionary standards at the expense of any alternate view. I don't sense any sense of elitism or exclusion with the OWS. They don't say they KNOW better (like the TP does with every breath), they simply WANT better.
Actually the Tea Party was about returning to Fiscal and Constitutional Conservatism. Are you suggesting the US Constitution is rigidly exclusionary?

OWS wanting the re-distrubution of wealth they did not earn while living off the public dole is a statement in how to change the country? Is an entitlement nation what they want? Or is their wish a lawless land where destruction of public and private property, physical assault, rape, arson, stone throwing, and drug use, becomes the nightly norm in the streets of the USA?

This movement is underwritten and organized by the radical far left supporters of Obama. And yet, Obama is more connected to corporations through his donors/bundlers, cabinet, advisors, and czars, than any POTUS in modern history. Why are they not protesting his actions and the laws Congress make the theft of wealth by banks and corporations deemed "too big to fail" possible?

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Old 11-05-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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Actually, if any of you had watched the video, the booth generated a lot of interest. Many people stopped by to check it out, first and foremost is obviously, "What kind of jobs?"

Unfortunately, the "Jobs" being offered are by and large fast food/retail minimum wage jobs. Subway, Wal-Mart, McDonalds, Popeyes, etc, etc. The kind of jobs that usually employ high school kids. There's even a job application for Solyndra, who cannot possibly had hired those head hunters because they went bankrupt. So my guess is that those guys are not really "head hunters" but some random people who downloaded a bunch of applications online, they have no connection to the employers.

The woman actually asked a good question, "These jobs don't pay much. How do you survive on that kind of salary?" You see, our problems is not a lack of minimum wage jobs; it's a lack of solid middle-class jobs. Jobs that can pay rent and expenses, jobs that can stimulate the economy. Jobs that can actually let people consume rather than survive. This is what the Teabaggers don't get. They see a guy pumping gas and a CEO running the investment fund to the ground but collects ten millions in bonus and they draw an equal sign.

And to add insult, the video shows a couple of protestors who already have jobs who turned down the minimum wage jobs. Oh how dare employed people turn down low-paying jobs!!! Lazy!!! Yeah right, crazy right-wingers.

But even with those minimum wage jobs, more than a few people filled out the applications. One guy said he just want to work full time and doesn't care if it's selling burgers.

Anyone who's even a tiny bit objective can see that these people WANT to work, in fact DESPERATE for work. I'd like to see real jobs being offered and the reaction. Bring out job applications to Apple, Facebook, Google, etc, etc and see a swarm of people fighting out the applications. Remember, the protest isn't about minimum wage, it's about a system that robs them of many of the middle class jobs that have disappeared due to several decades of extreme right-wing policy.
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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Actually the Tea Party was about returning to Fiscal and Constitutional Conservatism. Are you suggesting the US Constitution is rigidly exclusionary?

The Constitution is neither conservative nor liberal. It's just that, a list of fundamental laws and structure.

"Constitutional Conservatism"? What the F*&K is that? It's just code word for twisting and misrepresenting our rule of law until it suits you.

Our founding fathers would be turning in their graves if they ever hear us use terms like "Constitutional Conservatism."
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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Complete waste of time explaining OWS to roysoldboy or lifelongMOgal and several other people in this forum. They don't want to know the truth, they are just so brainwashed by the MSM that they can't think for themselves. Sad way to live.
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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Actually, if any of you had watched the video, the booth generated a lot of interest. Many people stopped by to check it out, first and foremost is obviously, "What kind of jobs?" ........
Yet the finale tally for applications completed was only two. Curiosity about what a booth is does not equate interest in employment. Life isn't fair and sometimes we have to work our way to the quality of job and wage/salary we want.

Unfortunately there seems to be an amazing lack of character and lack of personal pride where people would rather take money in the form of "entitlements" from taxpayers who do work than accept a job and pay they think is beneath them.

This is what decades of Socialist policies has brought this nation.
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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You mean none of you are here to offer us our first job at a salary of $125,000 with health care, pension, a month vacation, stock options, reserved parking space in the garage and a corner office on the 25th floor? Take a hike, we're not interested.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:02 PM
 
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The Constitution is neither conservative nor liberal. It's just that, a list of fundamental laws and structure.

"Constitutional Conservatism"? What the F*&K is that? It's just code word for twisting and misrepresenting our rule of law until it suits you.

Our founding fathers would be turning in their graves if they ever hear us use terms like "Constitutional Conservatism."
Is cursing really the only way in which you are able to express yourself?

What is Constitutional Conservatism? The words speak for themselves.

Read and learn:
Constitutional Conservatism | Hoover Institution

Now perhaps you would like to address the video and thread topic?
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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Actually, if any of you had watched the video, the booth generated a lot of interest. Many people stopped by to check it out, first and foremost is obviously, "What kind of jobs?"

Unfortunately, the "Jobs" being offered are by and large fast food/retail minimum wage jobs. Subway, Wal-Mart, McDonalds, Popeyes, etc, etc. The kind of jobs that usually employ high school kids. There's even a job application for Solyndra, who cannot possibly had hired those head hunters because they went bankrupt. So my guess is that those guys are not really "head hunters" but some random people who downloaded a bunch of applications online, they have no connection to the employers.

The woman actually asked a good question, "These jobs don't pay much. How do you survive on that kind of salary?" You see, our problems is not a lack of minimum wage jobs; it's a lack of solid middle-class jobs. Jobs that can pay rent and expenses, jobs that can stimulate the economy. Jobs that can actually let people consume rather than survive. This is what the Teabaggers don't get. They see a guy pumping gas and a CEO running the investment fund to the ground but collects ten millions in bonus and they draw an equal sign.

And to add insult, the video shows a couple of protestors who already have jobs who turned down the minimum wage jobs. Oh how dare employed people turn down low-paying jobs!!! Lazy!!! Yeah right, crazy right-wingers.

But even with those minimum wage jobs, more than a few people filled out the applications. One guy said he just want to work full time and doesn't care if it's selling burgers.

Anyone who's even a tiny bit objective can see that these people WANT to work, in fact DESPERATE for work. I'd like to see real jobs being offered and the reaction. Bring out job applications to Apple, Facebook, Google, etc, etc and see a swarm of people fighting out the applications. Remember, the protest isn't about minimum wage, it's about a system that robs them of many of the middle class jobs that have disappeared due to several decades of extreme right-wing policy.
Rep to you for stating the obvious. Trouble is...right wingers wouldn't recognize or acknowledge the obvious if it bit them on the a$$.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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You mean none of you are here to offer us our first job at a salary of $125,000 with health care, pension, a month vacation, stock options, reserved parking space in the garage and a corner office on the 25th floor? Take a hike, we're not interested.
The whole point of these protests is to denounce the low level of income and life quality that the corporations and Wall Street want Americans to become accustomed to so that they can benefit at their expense. These right wing robots are all in favor of this nation turning into an Oligarchy because partisan politics has told them that this is the way to go. Don't expect too much from these people...remember, these are the folks that supported nitwits such as Palin, O'Donnel and Angle as their I.Q. was on par with theirs.
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