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Old 05-01-2012, 02:07 AM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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He got bin Laden, Pubs! President Obama > Bush and the GOP.

If the mission that the President ordered had NOT been successful, Republicans would be touting it 24/7 as evidence that President Obama is a failure. Had Bush gotten bin Laden, Republicans would still be promoting it as the reason for their existence.

But since it was the incredible, intelligent President Obama who got bin Laden, jealous, petty Republicans are desperately trying to downplay it. President Obama did something that Republicans couldn't do over 7 years. This President is smarter, much smarter. He's effective, much more effective. Finding and killing bin Laden was a great achievement by President Obama, and there isn't a damn thing the GOP can do to diminish that.

What the SEALs say is irrelevant. Their job is to do what their Commander in Chief tells them to do, nothing more.

Tremendous edge to Obama.
It was the SEALS who got Bin Laden. Obama did give the order - but he gave it to Admiral McRaven to make the actual call, so if things went wrong McRaven would take the heat instead of Obama. (Even SEALS think giving the order, under the circumstances, was a no-brainer.) [1] [2] Thanks to the enhanced interrogation techniques implemented by Bush, which Obama condemned and then banned, Bin Laden’s location was pinpointed and this was made possible. Major kudos are subtracted for the outing of SEALS Team Six, which then jeopardized their lives.
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:22 AM
 
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Who do these people think they are? Obama had to cut short his golf game to make this gutsy call!

SEALs slam Obama for using them as 'ammunition' in bid to take credit for bin Laden killing during election campaign | Mail Online
You would be more impressed if the President and Commander in Chief took a gun and took an economy flight to Pakistan and took the guy out himself?
As for the Seals being disgruntled about the situation? Its the type of job Seals are trained for and are probably proud of the successful part they played in the operation.
PS. the link seems to be an Etabloid site on par with the National Enquirer. nicet4 ya gotta up the quality of your reading material..
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:26 AM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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False. Pres. Obama gave the "okay" order for Admiral McRaven to use his judgment, so if the attempt failed Obama wouldn't take the blame. [1]
Oh please, spare me the partisan BS. If it had failed, we'd still be listening to his detractors beat that like every other dead horse they cling to.
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It was the SEALS who got Bin Laden. Obama did give the order - but he gave it to Admiral McRaven to make the actual call, so if things went wrong McRaven would take the heat instead of Obama. (Even SEALS think giving the order, under the circumstances, was a no-brainer.)

That's like saying it was American Privates who liberated Europe during WWII and that Gen. Eisenhower had nothing to do with it.

Warfare is always a co-operative effort involving both military and civilian decision making. If Obama can't take credit for his part in the killing of Obama, then G.H.W. Bush gets no credit for driving the Iraqi's out of Kuwait...right?
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Gone
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The bolded portion, another example of you doing exactly what you accuse others of. Prime example of delfecting and, having nothing to do with the topic, trolling by you.

As for the topic being, in your words, "BS" why do you participate. Other than to spread misinformation and claim that those who disagree with your "latest wild accusations" just has to be discredited. And yes, even after you admit to using the liberal playbook, you seem to say you don't and claim anyone who disagrees with you uses a different playbook.

As for the topic, you have zero evidence that the quote is incorrect. Merely your opinion of what you want it to be.

Come back when you have some actual facts for a change.
Looks like I hit a nerve with you, GOOD.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:16 AM
 
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Obama and his admin have been blowing that horn almost non-stop during this election campaign.

As BJ Clinton put it in that campaign ad, brave, brave Obama, risked his political career, by giving the go ahead for that mission. Why, if all the Seals had died.... think of how awful and terrible that would have been for Obama's reelection chances. What a brave and gutsy guy Obama is.
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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That's like saying it was American Privates who liberated Europe during WWII and that Gen. Eisenhower had nothing to do with it.
That is incorrect. In fact, you made my point.

Gen. Eisenhower was a GENERAL. He became POTUS in 1953, which was after WW II ended.
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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If Obama can't take credit for his part in the killing of Obama, then G.H.W. Bush gets no credit for driving the Iraqi's out of Kuwait...right?
Apples and oranges.

Please do some research. A good place to begin is coalition forces of 34 nations.
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That is incorrect. In fact, you made my point.

Gen. Eisenhower was a GENERAL. He became POTUS in 1953, which was after WW II ended.

Ok, than it's like saying FDR had nothing to do with winning WWII. How's that?
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Apples and oranges.

Please do some research. A good place to begin is coalition forces of 34 nations.

Huh? Are there no other nation's forces engaged in Afghanistan and the War on Terror?
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