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Juan Williams: The whole idea is he’s a token; he’s a puppet. He’s being manipulated. He’s someone who is being used by white people.
I mean, it’s unbelievable. They would deny this man his own independent intelligence, his will, his own success. It is an outrage.
And if you think about this, [if] you think about what happened to Clarence Thomas, [if] you think about what they’re doing now to Herman Cain — and the parallels are clear. I don’t know how you could deny it — how you’d have to turn away from it.
So is Juan suggesting that Cain shouldn't have his past vetted because he is black? There is a legitimate story here, that his organization paid for silence because of accusations against him. Like it or not, that's newsworthy. And you're kidding yourself that if a possible scandal existed with Romney or Perry that it would be suppressed. Ask Newt Gingrich.
So is Juan suggesting that Cain shouldn't have his past vetted because he is black? There is a legitimate story here, that his organization paid for silence because of accusations against him. Like it or not, that's newsworthy. And you're kidding yourself that if a possible scandal existed with Romney or Perry that it would be suppressed. Ask Newt Gingrich.
WRONG...there is no story unless you have RELIABLE SOURCES...not anonymous people making claims!! This is entirely INNUENDO...nothing has been proven....no description of the supposed infractions has been given. In fact, the women in question have declined to go public. So I think if there were ANY substance to this story...other than some bimbo looking to make a fast buck....then we would be hearing from them. That's just plain common sense.
People like YOU want the dirt...even if it is unsubstantiated. Why? That isn't the AMERICAN WAY. People in this country are INNOCENT until proven guilty. Period. The reporters and people like YOU ...who think 'there is a story here'...are treating the man as if he is guilty...even though his accusers want no part of a public vetting. And if you had an ounce of common sense, that FACT alone should give you and these blood thirsty reporters pause...and certainly enough doubt to just let it go.
And by the way, the restaurant association already gave the go ahead for these bimbos to come out publicly...and STILL they decline. In a trial where there are no witnesses to testify or no evidence of wroing doing, the case is thrown out.
My God....some of you lefties are just ridiculous.
WRONG...there is no story unless you have RELIABLE SOURCES...not anonymous people making claims!! This is entirely INNUENDO...nothing has been proven....no description of the supposed infractions has been given.
Cain admits he was accused of sexual harassment and that a settlement was paid to the accuser. Whether or not he actually harassed these women, the accusation and settlement is a legitimate story, it is something that is appropriate to discuss regarding a Presidential candidate, and it is not a 'lynching' of any sort.
These cases are a fact of law. They are recorded and acknowledged by Cain, his lawyers, the legal system, and the accusers lawyers to already have happened in the 1990's. The three cases were said and done with before the 2000's, and Cain settled them. It is not lynching to bring up a litigated and settled case, it's not even close the actual definition of the damn word. It's amazing how people say they love America, and abuse the English language to bizarre lengths to make people they disagree with look bad.
To deny such blatant facts is bizarre as hell. The fact that Cain is going berserk over it, well you know something is really wrong when people go bananas at the simplest of questions. Guess what, sexual harassment is a bad thing that needs to be addressed. Accusing people, yelling at them, refusing to even consider answering anything is not the way for a leader to behave.
WRONG...there is no story unless you have RELIABLE SOURCES...not anonymous people making claims!! This is entirely INNUENDO...nothing has been proven....no description of the supposed infractions has been given. In fact, the women in question have declined to go public. So I think if there were ANY substance to this story...other than some bimbo looking to make a fast buck....then we would be hearing from them. That's just plain common sense.
People like YOU want the dirt...even if it is unsubstantiated. Why? That isn't the AMERICAN WAY. People in this country are INNOCENT until proven guilty. Period. The reporters and people like YOU ...who think 'there is a story here'...are treating the man as if he is guilty...even though his accusers want no part of a public vetting. And if you had an ounce of common sense, that FACT alone should give you and these blood thirsty reporters pause...and certainly enough doubt to just let it go.
And by the way, the restaurant association already gave the go ahead for these bimbos to come out publicly...and STILL they decline. In a trial where there are no witnesses to testify or no evidence of wroing doing, the case is thrown out.
My God....some of you lefties are just ridiculous.
gvsteve addresses the fact that there IS a story about an accusation and settlement. Whether the accusations are true, neither you nor I know. The only people who know what may have happened between Cain and these women are the parties who were directly involved in the 90's. According to what Cain himself has said, along with the NRA, there was a payment made in response to charges of harassment. You can argue about how strong a case that makes, but the payment is evidence that something happened.
But as for me, I don't care about what Cain did or didn't do back then. He may have been guilty of poor judgment, or he may not have been. His response (ignoring requests for comments for ten days, denying knowledge of it, backtracking) is the bigger story to me - it shows somebody who is not ready to be president.
One additional thing - in the context it has been used here, using the word 'lynching' has strong connotations that race is a factor in this story being aired. As mentioned above, this would be a story if Romney or Perry or Santorum was the main character.
You have to keep in mind that many lefties here consider Juan Williams to be "a token" so they'll dismiss his comments without a second thought. Liberals only care about black people when liberal votes are involved, liberals treat conservative blacks like slaves.
IMHO - Mr. Cain fails because his proposed policies are unworkable not because he harrased some women in his past.
If having "unworkable proposed policies" means someone should fail how do you explain the election of Obama?
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