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Old 11-08-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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Just simple guy gossip. Sarkozy has no love lost for Obama, in fact has criticized him in the past. Obama slurping up to Sarkozy no doubt since he made the gaffe about his looks. Wonder what Sarkozy says about Obama to other leaders?!
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Old 11-08-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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Obama said ISRAEL needed to go back to the 1967 borders!! Not Netanyahu..!!

So this is indeed a JEWISH issue! That affects the people of Israel. Not just the Prime Minister!
How is that a "Jewish" issue?.
What about the innocent Jordanian families who had their property taken from them when their land was occupied in 1948. What borders would Obama be talking about?
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Old 11-08-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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...any many Israelis will agree.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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Criticizing Netanyahu is OK. Many Israelis and Jews do that on a daily base. He is just a politician, who thinks and acts like any politician. As we know from our political scene, most politicians lie. What I find unfair is that he and Israel are judged by a different standard. Netanyahu puts Israel (and/or his party) before the US and UN? Who doesn't do that? However, no other leader will be accused of such thing! Israel decides to build houses and settlements? Every country on earth does that (though a different question is if that's clever...).
The double standard is the problem. On another thread, Israel was accused that they are hoping the US will attack Iran's nuclear facilities as they prefer not to get involved. However, if they threaten to do that by themselves, then they are THE aggressors.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:10 AM
 
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Criticizing Netanyahu is OK. Many Israelis and Jews do that on a daily base. He is just a politician, who thinks and acts like any politician. As we know from our political scene, most politicians lie. What I find unfair is that he and Israel are judged by a different standard. Netanyahu puts Israel (and/or his party) before the US and UN? Who doesn't do that? However, no other leader will be accused of such thing! Israel decides to build houses and settlements? Every country on earth does that (though a different question is if that's clever...).
The double standard is the problem. On another thread, Israel was accused that they are hoping the US will attack Iran's nuclear facilities as they prefer not to get involved. However, if they threaten to do that by themselves, then they are THE aggressors.
Most of the U.S. military actions are at Israel's bidding.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:10 AM
 
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Most of the U.S. military actions are at Israel's bidding.
And you have tangible proof to offer of this? Please link.

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Originally Posted by oberon_1 View Post
Criticizing Netanyahu is OK. Many Israelis and Jews do that on a daily base. He is just a politician, who thinks and acts like any politician. As we know from our political scene, most politicians lie. What I find unfair is that he and Israel are judged by a different standard. Netanyahu puts Israel (and/or his party) before the US and UN? Who doesn't do that? However, no other leader will be accused of such thing! Israel decides to build houses and settlements? Every country on earth does that (though a different question is if that's clever...).
The double standard is the problem. On another thread, Israel was accused that they are hoping the US will attack Iran's nuclear facilities as they prefer not to get involved. However, if they threaten to do that by themselves, then they are THE aggressors.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:21 AM
 
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Most of the U.S. military actions are at Israel's bidding.
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And you have tangible proof to offer of this? Please link.
Easy, Google U.S. military actions in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Idiots.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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What has any of this to do with Bibi being a liar and an Ahole?
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Obama said ISRAEL needed to go back to the 1967 borders!! Not Netanyahu..!!

So this is indeed a JEWISH issue! That affects the people of Israel. Not just the Prime Minister!
The concept of returning to the 1967 borders with the possibility of territorial compensation for the Israeli settlements has been on the table for decades. The primary sticking point being the percentage of territorial exchange. Its not like Obama introduced a new idea.
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