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Old 11-08-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I am quite happy where I am in life and what I make, but that still does not mean that criminals should be allowed to breathe air on my dime..

I agree with you. Prosecute the criminals. Let's start with the guys at Solyndra who stole a half a billion dollars from the tax payers.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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That has got to be one of the stupidest analogies of any issue I have ever read here on C-D. THere is nothing wrong with some income inequality. That's a part of our capitalist system. But massive income inequality and low social mobility has historically been known to be a source of social instability.

So you are ok with massive talent inequality that somebody was born with but not ok with massive financial inequality that somebody earned or was born with.

Why?
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:26 AM
 
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I really could care less about whether or not people have a large wealth or not. As long as their is equality when it comes to other things. The rich and wealthy seem to have it easy once they are on top of the food chain. Not saying that some did not work their butt off to get there, cause I know a number of them did, and paid their dues and sacrificed what they could to get to the top.

I am saying they have it easy after they get there. Taxes are not as stiff for them, as far as the law is concerned they are either held on a higher pedestal than the rest of us, or have enough money to offer to make others turn a blind side to what the guilty has actually done. Now wealth is one thing, but fame is another. Suppose they are not only wealthy, but also famous. Now they are getting stuff for free, and or paid to use or wear stuff.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:26 AM
 
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Many people whine about the income gap or the wealth gap. Many complain that others have more material goods than they do and complain about people who were born into wealth. They also complain that this gap is larger than it used to be and must be closed. But these hypocrites never complain about other gaps such as gaps in mental or physical ability.
this is probably because mental and physical ability are immutable, and are not being distorted by stupid government policies.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I agree with you. Prosecute the criminals. Let's start with the guys at Solyndra who stole a half a billion dollars from the tax payers.
I say, we should charge Solyndra for not following the legal rules for stealing dollars... the way likes of Halliburton do.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Sadly, the right doesn't get it and never will get it. Wealth concentration is a new phenomenon, only occurring in the last 30 years. It is not a consequence of the rich becoming hundreds of times smarter than they were before or because the rich are suddenly more talented.

The reason wealth concentration has exploded in the last 30 years is due to government policies that the right wing has championed, namely low taxes on wealth; lower tax-rates on income made from investment compared to income made from labor; policies that allow for unlimited campaign contributions from corporations, etc.

It also ignores the consequences of wealth concentration. We have a society in which money is increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few people, and in which that concentration of income and wealth threatens to make us a democracy in name only.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I agree with you. Prosecute the criminals. Let's start with the guys at Solyndra who stole a half a billion dollars from the tax payers.
Oh yes, because contractors never swindled the federal government before Solyndra.

It's not like defense contractors ever overbilled the government by billions of dollars ever before.

But Republicans need to make Solyndra a symbol of government waste. These same Republicans who are up-in-arms about Solyndra, were quiet as church mice when Kellogg Brown & Root were stealing from the Bush Administration.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Why would they complain about either. Your thread really makes no sense. I don't see how people being concerned that they don't have access to things like higher education and healthcare are going out of their grasp. It's an issue for the rich as well. It's hard to educate your children even if you're middle class. I know college isn't a big deal to you, but an uneducated population means that the United States has difficulty competing with the likes of China, India, Germany, Korea, etc.
Wow! A lot of denigrating comments from somebody who knows little if anything about me. I fully support education. So save your breath for somebody who doesn't. And by the way, millions of Americans have access to education today.

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Also, those of us who are educated have often traveled to many countries where the income disparity between the rich and poor is a lot more pronounced than in the United States. Trust me, that doesn't make a recipe for a great country.
Once again your ignorance is blatant since you don't know where I have traveled. I don't know where you have traveled, but I do know that I've traveled all over the world and have probably seen more foreign countries than 99.9% of the US population. So don't tell me about world travel.

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I also own stock in a lock of US companies. The American economy will not be strong without a strong, educated and prosperous middle class. I doubt you have the brains to become an engineer, researcher, chemist, physician, etc, but I do want to have that opportunity reasonably available to people here. Without it, companies will move and my ability to make money in this country will diminish.
Only a self aggrandizing idiot would make such a statement. You don't know if I'm an engineer, researcher, chemist or physician.

Maybe you just can't handle disagreement.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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this is probably because mental and physical ability are immutable, and are not being distorted by stupid government policies.
Mental and physical ability are not immutable and can be equalized with silly government rules just like wealth can be.

I know it's silly to suggest that we close the mental and physical gaps, but it's no more silly than suggesting we close the income and wealth gaps.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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I say, we should charge Solyndra for not following the legal rules for stealing dollars... the way likes of Halliburton do.
I agree. No company should be able to get away with theft.

Have you suggested that action to Obama?
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